By Years End:

B: Ellard White Laidler
HB: Walker McCarthy Scotland

C: Yarran Carrots Lucas
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

HF: Gibbs Henderson Menzel
F: Betts Casboult Waite

Int from: Kruezer Robinson Graham Tuohy Bell Armfield Buckley

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Until Waite gets in the side tbe forward line will struggle . Casboult , hammer and kruezer cant be target no 1 they are not good enough in that role and when Waites out walker gets a better defender as well .

I know Hendo is a better defender than forward but he has the tank to play the lead up push back forward like waite .

Shift White , Laidler Duigan Jamo get one to play on the 2nd tall and until waite returns play Hendo up front .

We are one big bodied defender short if you ask me unless Watson can step up to the plate .

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Don't agree with that. He was recruited as a forward and as a junior he was a very smart key forward. That's why he was a top 10 draft pick. For his development at Brisbane they played him down back in the reserves but always saw him as a forward.

We have some potential key forwards on our list but none that are "ready". Henderson is only just 23 and should now be ready to start taking the load. He is a natural forward, smart body player and a good kick and they are rare. He needs to play there.

We have guys like Watson, Jamison, White, McCarthy, Rowe who can all play as a key defender (we need 2) and guys like Laidler, McInnes (when fit), Duigan, Walker, Bootsma, Davies who can play tall or be on specific match ups when needed.

Have a forward line of Casboult as the big bodied target supported by the leading and more mobile Henderson & Waite (and maybe Walker) that should be good enough to kick winning scores and should also be much better when the ball hits the ground or defensively. Surround them with Garlett, Betts, Gibbs, Menzel and the mids and that side should kick lots of goals especially with a dominant midfield.

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If White and McCarthy are playing key back ahead of Jamison andWatson, then we might as well as start putting players in for surgery and preparing for 2014.



No chance.

Plus Ellard in the back pocket.

I really believe that we cannot be a genuine threat in finals unless we have a fit and firing Waite. I know we can't rely on him but unfortunately we have to until our other forwards develop further.

Friday night was only nab cup and we looked half interested but I saw more of the same of last year when Waite was out. We constantly break down at half forward. Levi looks promising but when he becomes the number 1 target and cops defenders like sauce merret he's going to struggle, this year at least. Waite is the only player on our list who can consistently carve up top line kpp defenders. Casboult, walker, and Kreuzer/hammer will be so much more effective with Waite as the focal point. I know this has all been said before but I don't think the other forwards have developed enough over the off season to move on from Waite. I think we can have a good year and make finals without him but I don't think we can push deep into September or make a grand final without him.

A forward line of

Garlett Waite walker
hammer Casboult betts

With Gibbs, Robbo, Lucas and hopefully Menzel at some stage rotating through there is our best forward line imo, and capable of taking us a long way.

Waite is our most important, irreplaceable player

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That's true but he'll come good.

What if Hawthorn lost Buddy now or Collingwood lost Cloke? Most would, by default drop those teams out of the top 4.
That's not to say Waite is as good, but he is somewhat irreplaceable in our make-up for now at least and no Hampson, Casboult, Rowe or Mitchell can cover what he does.

If Waite doesn't mark the ball, he brings it to ground and holds it up long enough for the smalls to enter the contest.

Agree, without Waite, I'd go Hendo fwd every time.

Jamo, Laids and one of Watson/White/Rowe/McCarthy to be the third tall defender. White would be my pick of that lot. Laids is a gun, plays tall very well, as long as he's back there with hopefully an in-form Jamo, we're always a chance to keep teams to a losing score.

B: Touhy Jamison Laidler
HB: Scotland White Yarran
C: Armfield Carazzo Simpson
HF: Garlett Henderson Judd
F: Betts Casboult Walker
Foll: Kruezer Gibbs Murphy
Int: Mclean Bell Robbo Lucas

Walker and Laidler are considered "talls".
1 ruck only, Levi to go in for a quick spell to give Krueze a rest, preferably on the bench.

Backline has potential to leak goals like crazy I know, but hopefully the extra run off half-back with a more structured forward line more than counter that. We have a solid midfield when it's up and running, lets make the most of it by scoring effectively.

Pretty sure Mathews said he always saw him as a defender. You would have to trust him.

Played his best games as a defender. Try him forward but if he cant cut it like last time then a gun CHB he will be. He likes it there too and knows full well he is more of chance of being a gun CHB than a reliable good forward.

I think the context Matthews referring to was whilst Brown was CHF.
Not that Hendo was more a defender than forward.

He recruited Hendo and saw Hendo as the right type to take over Browns role at CHF when Brown retired.
He also mentioned that Hendo could develop his CHF craft whilst playing in the backline against the best CHF's....and he was only 19yo...you have to remember that.

Brown has lasted longer than expected....and he's still going strong...maybe even another season in 2014 beckons.

Hendo has the makings of a great CHF and can become a great CHF for Carlton.
He can run, present, jump, mark, kick, crash and compete against the CHB's in the competiton.
Many people just dont realise Hendo's ability to run and cover a lot of ground...that's what CHF's do.
IMO he's great at CHB but wasted assetts playing him there.
Unfortunately we don't have anyone else around 195cm (other than Waite) who could play CHB.

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We need to develop McCarthy for CHB.

Ok I think I have nailed our best 22:

B: SCOTLAND, JAMISON, LAIDLER
HB: YARRAN, WHITE, WATSON
C: GIBBS, CARRAZZO, MURPHY
R: WARNOCK, JUDD, MCLEAN
HF: ROBINSON, CASBOULT, WALKER
FF: BETTS, HENDERSON, WAITE
INTERCHANGE: KRUEZER, ARMFIELD, GARLETT, ROWE
EMERGENCY: MENZEL, BELL, LUCAS, HAMPSON

UNUSED: MCCARTHY, MITCHELL, DAVIES, DUIGAN, CURNOW, DALE, TUOHY, BUCKLEY, CACHIA, TEMAY, BOOTSMA, MCINNESS, GRAHAM, JOSEPH, ELLARD, COLLINS, O’KEEFFE

In my opinion this is a Top 4 side. We have quality all over the park, Henderson gets to be the CHF we need (eventually replace Waite), we invest in Watson and White (finally) and Gibbs gets his Centre role. With Mitchell, Bell, Menzel, Dale, Buckley on the fringes - I have been never so excited to be a Carlton supporter!

I thought Mathews was quite emphatic about it. No context, nothing. He said they saw him as a defender.

Personally, i only go on what i have seen. I also trust Mathews on football issues. Best player ever. 4 flags as coach. He is a far better CHB and after seeing a decade of us being slaughtered by big forwards i don't see that a waste in assets. If he gets a spot at CHF and shows something move him there for good (providing we have someone else to stop the oppositions tall forwards - maybe Rowe) .

Malthouse is all about defense. He will want the opposition scoreline as low as possible. Any more than 10 goals will upset him. Right now you would think Henderson will play a big part in that.

Hendo likes playing forward, but sees his role as CHB.

Straight from the horses mouth!

Our best 22? After this weeks efforts...

B: SCOTLAND, JAMISON, LAIDLER
HB: YARRAN, DUIGAN, ARMFIELD
C: GIBBS, CARRAZZO, MURPHY
R: WARNOCK, JUDD, MCLEAN
HF: ROBINSON, ROWE, WALKER
FF: BETTS, HENDERSON, WAITE

INTERCHANGE: KRUEZER, GARLETT, CASBOULT, BELL

EMERGENCY: MENZEL, LUCAS, HAMPSON

UNUSED: WHITE, WATSON, MCCARTHY, MITCHELL, DAVIES, CURNOW, DALE, TUOHY, BUCKLEY, CACHIA, TEMAY, BOOTSMA, MCINNESS, GRAHAM, JOSEPH, ELLARD, COLLINS, O’KEEFFE

sure but he plays where we need him.
The trick is to cov er for him where he is currently playing

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Adding it to my sig to keep a link around for people.

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hi Jimmae, was wondrin' where you were.
that looks fabulous.

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Walker looked short of a gallop to me.

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