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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:47 pm 
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Wayne Johnston

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chelodina wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
With all the talk about Marchbank, Stewart and other talls, and now Trigg saying pick 5 isn't in in play....could we be looking at moving Casbault on?

How many players sign contracts a month before trade period to see them get moved on during trade period?



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Very few. Last time we did we swapped Kennedy for Judd.

You could probably bet if someone's signs a contract a month before the trade period that they are staying.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:45 pm 
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Don't forget our genius plan to improve Warnock's trade value by signing him up in a year we wanted to trade him

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:18 pm 
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Carlton have had discussions with Tom Wilson (captain of the Magoos) about being drafted. No guarantees


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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fmurphy30 wrote:
Carlton have had discussions with Tom Wilson (captain of the Magoos) about being drafted. No guarantees

Plays his guts out every game, pretty good skills too...but needs to be tested at AFL level. How old is he?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:52 pm 
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perfect example why we need draft for several players and build a dynasty after watching DANGER with his 38 possies and cats getting smashed by swans. NO more meshiah.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:29 pm 
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jamespul65 wrote:
perfect example why we need draft for several players and build a dynasty after watching DANGER with his 38 possies and cats getting smashed by swans. NO more meshiah.


Add another 39 coming from Selwood ... a lot of passengers for the cats last night ... one of their worst used to play for us


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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fmurphy30 wrote:
Carlton have had discussions with Tom Wilson (captain of the Magoos) about being drafted. No guarantees


Kerbatieh should be the first person we look at


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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We had two players who polled more than 3 votes.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:43 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
We had two players who polled more than 3 votes.


Geez. That s another way of looking at it.

These days I'm just grateful we get a mention.
My 12yo was sooo excited to see Cripps in the top 5...right up till he got bumped out by Hannebury.
My 8yo footy freak son was rapt to see Gibbs in the top 5.

We had a lot of players win 2 and 3 votes a game....without comparing to others.
Just happy we are clawing back.

Wish we were out of debt and spending big on the off field side to make us a destination club.
Our list will improve, and that we are doing.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:55 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
We had two players who polled more than 3 votes.


Geez. That s another way of looking at it.

These days I'm just grateful we get a mention.
My 12yo was sooo excited to see Cripps in the top 5...right up till he got bumped out by Hannebury.
My 8yo footy freak son was rapt to see Gibbs in the top 5.

We had a lot of players win 2 and 3 votes a game....without comparing to others.
Just happy we are clawing back.

Wish we were out of debt and spending big on the off field side to make us a destination club.
Our list will improve, and that we are doing.

Debt free?
Tell him he's dreaming!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:57 am 
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When talls Rowe Casboult White become depth players we should have a pretty good spine.
IF we can get Marchbank Stewart and Corr on board whilst McKay develops then our spine is set.
Gives us Weitering and Marchbank as swingmen, as well as increasing our pace and mobility from talls.

When midfield-forwards Thomas Sumner Lamb become depth players we should have a good forwardline.
IF we can get Pickett Hrovat Hoskin-Elliot/Ellis-Yeolman and add a 2016 first round mid whilst Curnow and Silvagni develop around them our forwardline improves as does our midfield depth.

IF pick 5 helps us get the above mentioned and we can receive a pick 14-16 for the 5, I think we have expedited our rebuild, and are on par with the depth of all the teams outside the 8.

From there we can add class from the 2017 and 2018 drafts along with a FA star in the mould of a Fyfe.

We could be ready to fire for finals from 2018 onwards.

A great trading period in the next fortnight can set us up quicker than some think.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:28 am 
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GOOD post Bondi


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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bondiblue wrote:
When talls Rowe Casboult White become depth players we should have a pretty good spine.
IF we can get Marchbank Stewart and Corr on board whilst McKay develops then our spine is set.
Gives us Weitering and Marchbank as swingmen, as well as increasing our pace and mobility from talls.

When midfield-forwards Thomas Sumner Lamb become depth players we should have a good forwardline.
IF we can get Pickett Hrovat Hoskin-Elliot/Ellis-Yeolman and add a 2016 first round mid whilst Curnow and Silvagni develop around them our forwardline improves as does our midfield depth.

IF pick 5 helps us get the above mentioned and we can receive a pick 14-16 for the 5, I think we have expedited our rebuild, and are on par with the depth of all the teams outside the 8.

From there we can add class from the 2017 and 2018 drafts along with a FA star in the mould of a Fyfe.

We could be ready to fire for finals from 2018 onwards.

A great trading period in the next fortnight can set us up quicker than some think.

The Dogs have shown how quickly things can turn around.
We weren't too far off the pace in about five games, some of them top teams.
We do need an elite outside mid with run. We have Gibbs who is elite but not quick. The Dogs won the prelim AND the GF on the back of Johannisen (sp) run and carry late in the games.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
When talls Rowe Casboult White become depth players we should have a pretty good spine.
IF we can get Marchbank Stewart and Corr on board whilst McKay develops then our spine is set.
Gives us Weitering and Marchbank as swingmen, as well as increasing our pace and mobility from talls.

When midfield-forwards Thomas Sumner Lamb become depth players we should have a good forwardline.
IF we can get Pickett Hrovat Hoskin-Elliot/Ellis-Yeolman and add a 2016 first round mid whilst Curnow and Silvagni develop around them our forwardline improves as does our midfield depth.

IF pick 5 helps us get the above mentioned and we can receive a pick 14-16 for the 5, I think we have expedited our rebuild, and are on par with the depth of all the teams outside the 8.

From there we can add class from the 2017 and 2018 drafts along with a FA star in the mould of a Fyfe.

We could be ready to fire for finals from 2018 onwards.

A great trading period in the next fortnight can set us up quicker than some think.

The Dogs have shown how quickly things can turn around.
We weren't too far off the pace in about five games, some of them top teams.
We do need an elite outside mid with run. We have Gibbs who is elite but not quick. The Dogs won the prelim AND the GF on the back of Johannisen (sp) run and carry late in the games.


The dogs drafted themselves to success picked the players they wanted not take heap of other teams cast offs hoping some become stars.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:37 am 
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Hearing we are trying to trade for a early second round pick then swap 2 early second rounders for the Doggies pick 18. Pick 18 to the Giants for Marchbank


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:48 am 
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Have also heard that some at the club are bothered by SOS not valuing picks outside 40 so much so they are questioning the ability to spot talent late in the draft. At a board meeting late last year, where he was asked to attend and fronted the board to discuss his strategy and process he was questioned why he does not rate or look for picks between 30+ and a board member suggested the club should look at finding a talented person to become head recruiter to which SOS disagreed


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:28 am 
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trublu wrote:
Have also heard that some at the club are bothered by SOS not valuing picks outside 40 so much so they are questioning the ability to spot talent late in the draft. At a board meeting late last year, where he was asked to attend and fronted the board to discuss his strategy and process he was questioned why he does not rate or look for picks between 30+ and a board member suggested the club should look at finding a talented person to become head recruiter to which SOS disagreed



If we assume the above is all true:

1. Brodie is coming as head recruiter by the talk
2. Brodie is sos mate
3. The board should have stood up to sos and said we are in charge and directed the ceo to immediately secure a recruiter
4. Sos is a list manager and not a recruiter
5. The board should remove the northern blues arrangements and direct money and resources to a fair dinkum reserves and development program
6 the club is going nowhere


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:24 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
trublu wrote:
Have also heard that some at the club are bothered by SOS not valuing picks outside 40 so much so they are questioning the ability to spot talent late in the draft. At a board meeting late last year, where he was asked to attend and fronted the board to discuss his strategy and process he was questioned why he does not rate or look for picks between 30+ and a board member suggested the club should look at finding a talented person to become head recruiter to which SOS disagreed



If we assume the above is all true:

1. Brodie is coming as head recruiter by the talk
2. Brodie is sos mate
3. The board should have stood up to sos and said we are in charge and directed the ceo to immediately secure a recruiter
4. Sos is a list manager and not a recruiter
5. The board should remove the northern blues arrangements and direct money and resources to a fair dinkum reserves and development program
6 the club is going nowhere


How do you manage a list without being across recruitment? :donk:

The number of logical fallacies in the 6 points is not even worth commenting on.

Further, it's all premised on an assumption of fact where the information could only be from SOS or a Board member who's leaked information and therefore lacks discipline. If it's true, the Board has problems. If it's not true then all 6 points are fallacies upon fallacies.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:04 am 
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CarltonClem wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
trublu wrote:
Have also heard that some at the club are bothered by SOS not valuing picks outside 40 so much so they are questioning the ability to spot talent late in the draft. At a board meeting late last year, where he was asked to attend and fronted the board to discuss his strategy and process he was questioned why he does not rate or look for picks between 30+ and a board member suggested the club should look at finding a talented person to become head recruiter to which SOS disagreed



If we assume the above is all true:

1. Brodie is coming as head recruiter by the talk
2. Brodie is sos mate
3. The board should have stood up to sos and said we are in charge and directed the ceo to immediately secure a recruiter
4. Sos is a list manager and not a recruiter
5. The board should remove the northern blues arrangements and direct money and resources to a fair dinkum reserves and development program
6 the club is going nowhere


How do you manage a list without being across recruitment? :donk:

The number of logical fallacies in the 6 points is not even worth commenting on.

Further, it's all premised on an assumption of fact where the information could only be from SOS or a Board member who's leaked information and therefore lacks discipline. If it's true, the Board has problems. If it's not true then all 6 points are fallacies upon fallacies.


please explain to me why footscary have Darymple and Jason MacCartney?
what role does Darymple perform which is separate from Jason MacCartney?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2016
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
please explain to me why footscary have Darymple and Jason MacCartney?
what role does Darymple perform which is separate from Jason MacCartney?


http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/team/ ... -personnel


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