Two of them are Rookies so even with Alex Silvagni it's only 3 changes to the senior list.

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There’s no incorrect facts, that’s your spin... currently they are the selections.

Adelaide did not expect to miss the 8...

The picks will change but many consider that pick 19 (or thereabouts) to be at least as valuable at pick 16 from last year due to the supposed superior quality of this year’s draft

It’s trading not allocating, and if you don’t think clubs don’t try to project where clubs will finish before they complete trades involving future trade picks then this conversation is pointless... why would the Crows swap their 2nd rounder with us then? Maybe because they believed we would finish much lower than them etc etc

It’s another reason why some in the industry have a laugh at our expense...

But you’re right, it’s about opinions, we’ll agree to disagree!

So 3 off the primary list so far - you'd expect another couple at least to accomodate 3 draftees and 2 free agents/trades

Pretty fair, a few more to come later I reckon. If I was keeping any of them I would've hung on to Mullett for depth but he's allergic to body contact so he didn't have a future. Looks like Schumacher is our HBF depth for next year, I'm fine with that.

3 off the Rookie list, Silvagni, Shaw & Glass-McClasker.

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True. But the rookie list doesn’t work the way it used to.

Scrimshaw?

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Says a lot about our mature recycled players. Like my earlier post I get we have a larger strategy around total player payments and not giving much up for these guys but we didn't get much for our roll of the dice from this lot or Palmer, Smedts etc.

It's an area for the club to resource better to identify and snag a Miles or Kelly type with a later pick. Happy with the investment in kids to date but can't just build a side that way.

Pathetic inept lazy recruiting 3 spuds then piss them off after 22 rounds

As I said before look everywhere
Stewart is not the only one in the GFL

Or McGovern?

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So its 2 off main list, 3 off rookie list, 5 in total - yes?

All of O'Shea, Shaw and Mullett were a complete waste of time. Should of been one of those 3 at most, and the other 2 being at least mids if we were going to get recycled guys in.

yes agree BUT isn't it similar to Wright from Adelaide and that has paid off - so I think sometimes it works other times it doesn't particularly given our list blackhole from 24- 29 years of age

I have a feeling that if we require,
McGovern Shiel and Setterfield then goodbye to
Rowe Graham and Kerridge...

Shiel first pick 2019.
Setterfield second round, maybe 2 of them.
McGovern PP 12ish and maybe pick swaps.

Oops this is my dream....

its a very interesting way of looking at it, but it would probably be

shiel = kerridge
setterfield = graham
McGovern = Casbolt

I am really starting to warm to McGovern ... gives players like Kerr, McKey, DeKonig etc.. realtime to develop and become something special without the pressures and demands of Senior Football.

Shiel/Setterfield to give instant relief to Cripps and Walsh (Pick 1) and whatever we do with 24 & 25.

that is 3 instant upgrades on existing levels of talent and further introduction of elite talent.

i honestly believe we will be a vastly different side next year, if we can get our trades right, all our players back from injury ...

Adelaide get pick 1 and their second rounder back from us,
GWS get the priority pick, and Adelaide's first two picks (maybe a side deal involving a future pick for Setterfield)
We get McGovern and Shiel.

no thanks

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Not just because we might win games next year, but that it would completely @#$%&! St Kilda, and keep Essendon* in that "10-12 wins but never threatening" bracket. I'm all about the realistic victories these days.

Does that mean we give up pick 1, 12 (PP) and a mid 20's pick for Shiel and McGovern?