What is your basis? Where he went in the draft two years ago is irrelevant. He needs to be judged on the potential he has shown on the field.

Anyone got any highlights from GWS on how this guy plays. Reality is, most of us are saying get him because he was pick 6 a few years ago.

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How about trading with someone for picks in the draft rather than injured players from other clubs?.... There's a thought.



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This.

This.

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Guaranteed may be too strong a word but the top 5 picks in this draft are as strong a midfield draft as you can find and that is our greatest deficiency. Top 5 picks average 150 games. Why am I going to give a pick that fills the greatest structural weakness on our list for little risk to add to the strongest part of our list with an injured unproven player. I am not saying march bank isn't a great get but that he is clearly not worth the price.

Now that's an argument I can take more seriously.

Keep playing Rowe as our key defender, there's a thought...
Injured players hey... How many games did these injured players play this year?? Plowman, Lamb, Sumner and Phillips??
Reckon SOS is going after a dud player in Marchbank?? No idea.. There's a thought..
Will not trade pick 5 for Marchbank so move on from the, why give up pick 5 for Marchbank when we can pick up a 200 gamer...
Need talls just as much as mids, long way to go so enjoy watching Marchbamk star along side pick 5 in years to come... There's a thought!!!!

I would not be trading 5 for Marchbank. However ... its laughable that people think a top 5 pick automatically equates to a 200 game player. There is always a risk. Its less risky when you take a young gun midfielder who is already playing in a top side ... so ... I would consider Tom Mitchell + a pick for our no. 5.

Also ... trading future picks is a good idea if you believe the club will improve dramatically (and we do) and other clubs don't. This is a situation where you can could get real value if you are smart.

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And if your assessment of your capability and progress is better than theirs...

IF YOU ARE A GOOD JUDGE and it turns out that your team performs much better than expected ... you would have got worse pick in the next draft than expected ... therefore trading that future pick should have given you better value. If things go the other way ... its a stuff up.

The draft really is a lottery ... there is so much risk involved. You try to minimise the risk by knowing all you can know about the players and by manipulation of your position in the draft (as outlined above if possible or by trading) ... but in the end you need to compare whats in the draft to whats out there currently. Its just dumb to say ... we need to take draft picks without assessing the available talent. At least you know what you are getting with someone like Tom Mitchell (for the right deal of course).

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You minimise risk by loading up with as many top 20-30 picks as you can. This might mean trading older quality players if you are at that stage of a team's development.

Don't agree ... sorry.

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At the end of the day, it is a tough judgement call.
What is Pick 5 really worth this year?
And then, there are other factors that determine whether the judgement is justified - e.g. development, inner drive etc...
It is also true that high draft picks are still risky. Even the best teams pick duds right at the top.
The thinking generally, however, is that the risk is reduced with higher Vs lower picks. But this doesn't compare proven players such as Tom Mitchell Vs the potential upside of pick 5. And who can tell whether O'Meara now is worth what he was 3yrs ago or whether he will turn out like Daisy Thomas?

In any event, we have no choice but to trust SOS & co to weigh up the right factors and make the right decisions.
His judgement thus far looks to be better than what we have had before (although the Cripps decision, against the tide, must be acknowledged as turning out pretty well...).

The best thing about the draft is the hope.
We look to have done well at least with Weitering and Curnow in the last draft. Hopefully, McKay comes on as well. Not convinced yet on Cunningham yet but not in a rush to judgement either.
Hopefully, we can pick up another 2-3 guns in the draft and trade in a couple of valuable pick ups (e.g. Plowman).

BBW. The lowest risk you can have is a top 5 pick. They should rarely be traded

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-19/s ... zach-tuohy

Swans enter race to land Blues defender Zach Tuohy

THE SYDNEY Swans have entered the race for Carlton defender Zach Tuohy.

Tuohy is due to come out of contract at the end of next month and has already attracted keen interest from North Melbourne.

The Swans are believed to be among at least two other clubs who have recently put their hats in the ring for the 26-year-old Irishman.

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Trade for Mitchell and a swap of later picks for Sydney to bank points?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Zac and next year's 2nd round pick for Tom Mitchell thanks.

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A straight swap for their first round pick sounds about spot on to me.

And then on-trade that pick (#16-18) & the 3rd rounder from WB (#52-54) to GWS for Marchbank, Steele & Corr/Stewart?

We keep #5, #23 & #41 for best available mids and get the 3 GWS players for the price of 2 (Tuohy + a pick in early 50s).

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