Carlton are set to farewell Kade Simpson as the club faces a difficult decision on celebrated forward Eddie Betts.

7NEWS.com.au sources have indicated the 36-year-old Simpson’s career will come to a close on Saturday night.

He is due to play his 342nd AFL game when the Blues take on Brisbane at the Gabba.

I really wouldn't be too bothered if all 3 retired. If I was to keep one it'd be Simmo

Simmo, Betts and Murphy -

Simmo is the one you ant to keep as his form has been good enough, sadly he is the easiest of the 3 for our match committee to replace.

I think they should all go.


It would be like Malcolm Blights call on McDermott, McGuiness and Jarman back in the mid-90s.


Time to wipe the slate clean and give the responsibility to the new guard, this could be Teague’s moment if he wants it.


Murphy, Simpson and to a lesser extent Betts are part of the old conditional Carlton who have never known success, there mindset is not what the current playing list needs.

I was for recruiting Betts but only on a one year deal.

I guess I would answer that with a question. In 2015 where did you expect us to be at the end of 2020? My expectations were that we would become a competitive side with the potential/possibility of finals. Once in the finals anything can happen. So after 5 years am I disappointed. I get disappointed/frustrated with any loss like everyone, but once the emotion is removed I believe we have improved and are now competitive against any team and can win against any team. So bring on 2021.

Murphy has a year added to his contract. He's going nowhere, man.
I'd be happy for Simmo to stay on if we had to keep one of the older blokes but we are stuck with Murphy.

Hopefully they persist with Dow and don't trade him - you don't go pick 3 because you're a spud. As a junior he won his own ball, was a highish possession winner, good speed, good evasiveness.

I wouldn't mind a Logans Run scenario the other two in that age bracket wouldn't be missed

I think they should all go.


It would be like Malcolm Blights call on McDermott, McGuiness and Jarman back in the mid-90s.


Time to wipe the slate clean and give the responsibility to the new guard, this could be Teague’s moment if he wants it.


Murphy, Simpson and to a lesser extent Betts are part of the old conditional Carlton who have never known success, there mindset is not what the current playing list needs.

I was for recruiting Betts but only on a one year deal.

OK, I'll bite. That smart arsed last line deserves an answer. You're off the mark IMHO, despite your know-it-all smugness.
You didn't mention player development once. SOS picked players with a skill set he or BB wanted. Wrong, SOS picked players he wanted, not BB, think about that He was also forced to punt on players like Setterfield, Kennedy, Plowman, Marchbank in two for one deals because everybody knows you can't rely on the draft to rebuild from the ground up. [ This is funny, he had Kruezer, Cripps, Simmo, Docherty, Murphy, Gibbs, Tuohy etc. etc. he even got lucky with Jones. So I don't know what you're talking about except maybe being a SOS apologist....SOS wasn't forced to do anything, he wasn't forced to overpay, there were better and much cheaper options. He wasn't forced to do the Gov deal for possibly the laziest player in the AFL. If he listened to BB just a little bit, we'd have a much deeper midfield!!! All of those have shown something, even though none will ever win a Brownlow. Agree
The kids need a bit of time as a rule. Agree
SPS is being crucified as a defender. Strongly agree, he's an inside/outside midfielder who is also very handy as a forward, whatever's happening now is a coaching issue he isn't strong enough and his instincts are not as a defender. He is an outside player who has been turned into a robot by successive coaches and the boys club of waxing. The sooner they get broken up, the better.
LOB is a running machine with elite foot skills. Nope, just because SOS said he is, doesn't make it so. He is not very good (that's not news to the club or other clubs either), his efforts yesterday were poor, and he looked incredibly slow, particularly when Lynch was running away from him. Apart from Docherty and Fish who were hurt yesterday, LOB spent the most time on the bench. Clearly we don't rate his endurance. He's numbers as a junior regarding ball winning ability were very poor. As a rule, juniors with those numbers don't make it, at least not as mids... that's on SOS. We have a game plan that doesn't let any of the runners free. If correct, that's on the coach We won't know if he can really play until he is given licence to run and carry and then we will see if the boys wax club keep ignoring him like they ignore SPS and Cunningham, speaking of whom; If true, that's a coaching issue, again as a junior, Cunningham's ball winning numbers were very poor. I'd try him as on the HBF, where i'd have running past collecting handballs to use his run, get him into the game, we have little run/speed out of the back halfhe has elite pace and pretty good ball skills but as an outside player gets ignored as well and has to get his own footy. Willo is similar but despite his vast experience of twenty odd games gets pilloried here for trying to take the game on. Strongly agree, he's the only one who shows dash, and should be further encouraged
I am as pissed off as anybody but we have shown we can mix it for two, three and occasionally four quarters with the big boys. We have been running a limited midfield in these shortened games, we won't get away with that when things return to normal... Collingwood were missing Treloar, Sidebottom, DeGoey, Sier, Wills, Beams, etc. etc. when we played them who all run through the midfield
It isn't skill in the team that's the big issue, it's mostly between the ears and the game plan that puts players under constant pressure with ball in hand.
Let's look at games won and lost.
The Newnes goal was cancelled by the Gray goal. We should have beaten Port and lost to Freo. Maybe, maybe not, Port had 3 chances in the last 2 minutes to kick goals
Geelong was a coaching issue. Our limited midfield tired We stopped what we were doing and let Geelong get the wind in their sails and then watched. Ablett missed and we won but the fact is, had the coach put an extra man on Ragatulea to chop him out, they wouldn't have been so close. They had other easy misses in the last few minutes i.e. Duncan
Collingwood and GWS were replays of Geelong. The coach didn't do ANYTHING to stop the run that beat us. He doesn't make in-game changes. He might have put Levi back to stop them marking. [ Agree, coaching issues, however we lost the Pies game by 4 or 5 goals
He might have put someone different on Daicos. No. NOTHING.
GWS the same. Coaching issues. We were two feet way from losing the Essendon** game

I know it's fashionable to slag off at SOS and the recruiting from back then and perhaps there is reason for it. It's why SOS was let go Some of the picks haven't come on as quickly we would have liked.
Don't forget SOS picked up Charlie, Harry, Walsh, Willo, Cunningham, Stocker (who isn't playing for personal reasons and nothing to do with SOS), Philp, Honey, Fisher, who all show something, Kemp, Cottrell, who might turn into a contested beast or be a hard at it run with player, traded in Doc and those above from GWS. Count up how many top 30 selections we've had over the 5 years, 5 years worth!!!! He almost had O'Meara, Papley and Shiels and would have had Cogs except the AFL stepped in. It was the club's incompetence that caused the Papley trade to fail, compare how teams got their trades done with contracted players Hogan, Neal, Lever He missed Butler but had to go harder for Papley because of the Essendon** fracas.Wrong, SOS didn't want Butler, Agresta did... both SOS and Agresta were interviewed within minutes of each during trade week, and the responses were staggering., and very different.. it's why Butler went to the Saints, he was wanted there!!!! I'm sure SOS could have found a pick in the 50s for Butler, if he wanted him, Butler was cheap too. Imagine a forward line with Papley and Butler around the feet of our big boys, applying pressure!!!

It's still too early to write off half a dozen kids 22 and less. It's also too early to guarantee they will make it but mostly they have shown glimpses of what they are capable of, It's up to Teague and the club psycho to make them do it consistently.[Agree, he should be making it easier for them to succeed i.e. if they are mids, play them and develop them as mids... we are not going anywhere on the back of Curnow, Murphy (who still have roles to play, not just the leading roles) etc etc

We are one win and % outside the eight after throwing away at least four games we should have won from where we were at half time or three quarter time. Four weeks ago we were in position to finish top 6. The players choked. That's a lack of experience and lack of on and off field leadership, which can turn around pretty fast if the coach has the balls. Can't go anywhere without a stellar defence (look at each year's premiers), Bolton focused on that, Teague demolished it very quickly... can't go anywhere without a deep midfield, Bolton was working on that with the kids, Teague went back to the veterans, at the expense of the youngsters

If you can't see any positives out of that lot, perhaps you aren't looking hard enough. Perhaps I know SFA and you are right.

We'll find out soon enough.