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Blue Vain

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:09 pm

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18022

chelodina wrote:

Boekhorst's dream team chart for this year. Ignore the 0s.

I know dream team has its floors but for an outside :speed machine ', it should favour him.

Exciting stuff.

His performance went through the flaw.......

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chelodina

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:45 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:43 pm
Posts: 1323

Blue Vain wrote:

chelodina wrote:

Boekhorst's dream team chart for this year. Ignore the 0s.

I know dream team has its floors but for an outside :speed machine ', it should favour him.

Exciting stuff.

His performance went through the flaw.......

Yes there was a lot of flaw in his performance.

I really did write floors. How embarrassing. I feel like Synbad when we win

Keep up the good work

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Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:13 am

Garry Crane

Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:09 pm
Posts: 210

bluechampion wrote:

Dk wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

chelodina wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

At the start of the season ... before getting injured, Boekhorst was one of our best players. He has shown a lot of promise and 2017 will be a big year for him.

Hmmmm I think the first half of this statement is incorrect and fingers crossed for the 2nd part.

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Chelodina, just go back and have a look at the NAB games and the first 3 rounds. IMO he was one of our stand outs early on.
ie exceeded my expectations.

What did he do wrong in that period?

Apart from the fact he is a massive cat on the footy field, wouldn't know what a hard ball looks like. At 23 how much more improvement does he have left in him? Personally dont see him developing into a player that would get a game in a top 8 side.

Look at Lewis Jetta at Sydney. A good player in a great side, a side where he had a role that played to his strengths. Look at Lewis Jetta at West Coast. A player who has ben in and out of the side and unable to make an impact when playing because the personnel around him aren't as good and he can't play the role he excels at.

Boekhorst can play, and in the right environment he can excel. He may not love the rough-and-tumble, but not all footballers do. Look at Jack Darling; he's obviously a tough competitor, but he's copping shit from every angle for shirking the issue in one contest from last weekend, which probably makes for one contest he's shirked all season. Perceptions aren't everything.

And, honestly, if you think running the length of the SCG to lay a tackle and save a certain goal doesn't take guts; a will to win, a belief in yourself and the strength to push on when others give the chase away, then I question what you really know about footy.

If u think one run down tackle, which was the only time all year he showed a will to win, showed courage, belief and guts, means that he is all of those things then I really question what u know about footy. That was the only time in his career at Carlton I've seen him put in and thought he actually cared.

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cimm1979

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:02 am

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:12 pm
Posts: 15582
Location: Upper Swan.

bluechampion wrote:

Dk wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

chelodina wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

At the start of the season ... before getting injured, Boekhorst was one of our best players. He has shown a lot of promise and 2017 will be a big year for him.

Hmmmm I think the first half of this statement is incorrect and fingers crossed for the 2nd part.

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Chelodina, just go back and have a look at the NAB games and the first 3 rounds. IMO he was one of our stand outs early on.
ie exceeded my expectations.

What did he do wrong in that period?

Sorry blue.

Jetta isn't playing like a busted @#$%&! at WCE because he's got back to Perth on a shedload of cash and is taking the piss as he relaxes back in his home town. He should be dominating for the WCE, particularly at Subi, but nah.

I've backed Boek from the start but his efforts this year were embarrassing.

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Effes

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:13 pm

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:37 pm
Posts: 19393
Location: afl.virtualsports.com.au

Marchbank nominates Carlton

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-def ... 5779a30e61

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Sin City

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:23 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:05 pm
Posts: 4581
Location: St Helens

Great stuff, that's an awesome bunch of tall defenders for the next ten years!

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TheSwan

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:42 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm
Posts: 1932

I am just going to hold back my excitement till after we have made the trade. I don't want this to be Jaksh number 2.

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kezza

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:45 pm

Ken Hunter

Joined: Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm
Posts: 14994

TheSwan wrote:

I am just going to hold back my excitement till after we have made the trade. I don't want this to be Jaksh number 2.

I am just happy that he chose us and we beat the likes of Collingwood, Essendon* and St Kilda for his services.
Nice to have sought after players chosing us.

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jamespul65

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:23 pm

Bert Deacon

Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:51 pm
Posts: 546

now we must KEEP5 for the next gun mid and there would be alot of happy supporters.

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chelodina

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:25 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:43 pm
Posts: 1323

Effes wrote:

Marchbank nominates Carlton

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-def ... 5779a30e61

3rd rounder, no more

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ianh

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:03 pm

Serge Silvagni

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:08 pm
Posts: 906

Effes wrote:

Marchbank nominates Carlton

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-def ... 5779a30e61

Would be the third Marchbank to play for Carlton after half-brothers Bill (1908) and Jim (1906-13). Given it is a fairly rare name I suspect they may be related. Might have to ask some of the oldtimers round here if they went alright. :wink:

Can only be a good thing if he came from the same gene-pool.

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bax

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:55 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:18 am
Posts: 1321
Location: Melbourne

chelodina wrote:

Effes wrote:

Marchbank nominates Carlton

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-def ... 5779a30e61

3rd rounder, no more

Post's?

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Age

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:26 pm

John James

Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:14 pm
Posts: 630
Location: Caroline Springs

SOS locking in the defence for 10 Blues years with this move. Need outside mids and another forward. List rebuild is taking shape. Be patient

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daggs001

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:16 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:20 pm
Posts: 1824

TheSwan wrote:

I am just going to hold back my excitement till after we have made the trade. I don't want this to be Jaksh number 2.

SOS was working for GWS when we did the Jaksch trade. He took us to the cleaners and why not. He got the best deal for his employer.
We were stupid enough to overpay.
This time he is working for us and the boot is on the other foot.
IMO, SOS has already proven he is a very good operator. We wont be overpaying.

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Kouta

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:27 am

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Posts: 21075
Location: Missing Kouta

daggs001 wrote:

TheSwan wrote:

I am just going to hold back my excitement till after we have made the trade. I don't want this to be Jaksh number 2.

Rogers and Hughes pulled off a better deal to swap Hampson for Docherty.

Hindsight with St Kilda and other clubs chasing Jaksch who was set on Carlton. Yet the like of Hugh Goddard and Laverde get better with every game they miss because they're young. It was a similar deal to the Dogs getting the Dunkley and Collins picks for the Charlie Curnow pick. Yet Geelong lost patience and cut Hamling who is suddenly a best 22 defender at the Dogs.

More a case of SOS being ruthless and getting what he wants to build a premiership list. SOS stills wants Marchbank after trading Boyd for Griffen and the Marchbank pick. Didn't take Lever or Wright with Tomlinson and Lobb only coming of age this year. Be prepared for a Chernobyl style meltdown if we trade five to get Marchbank and extra to rebuild our list.

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17th Premiership

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:35 am

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:22 am
Posts: 2758

Herald reporting that pick 5 is in the mix (almost as if this is not even contested by Carlton).
The Age reporting that we have given no indication about what we would be prepared to trade: "The club will work closely with both Greater Western Sydney and Caleb's management to come to a suitable arrangement," Carlton list manager Stephen Silvagni said in a statement.

I really hope it is not pick or that if it is, we get either two top 20 picks or one top 10 pick in return.

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SurreyBlue

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:12 am

Ken Hunter

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10573

chelodina wrote:

Effes wrote:

Marchbank nominates Carlton

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/gws-def ... 5779a30e61

3rd rounder, no more

... Even I would go as far as a 2nd round pick.

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Michael Jezz

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:38 am

Rod Ashman

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:52 pm
Posts: 2044

Marchbank is injured and unproven swingman. At pick 5 he would be valued in the same range as 200 game onballers Mcgrath, Ainsworth, Setterfield. Marchbank was picked early by GWS to fill a need and was 15-25 pick. He is worth no more than pick 25. If GWS want even a pick between 15-20, I would prefer to trade for steele who fills a greater need in the midfield and use another 2nd round draft pick on a KPD

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Stefchook

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:50 am

Wayne Johnston

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:36 am
Posts: 8161

I'd love it if GWS were willing to swap Marchbank for Everitt. But really I don't understand how Marchbank is unproven. And McGrath, Ainsworth and Settlefield are guaranteed 200 gamers. :screwy:

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blueboy23

Post subject: Re: List Management 2016

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:43 am

Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:36 pm
Posts: 1057
Location: melbourne

Makes me laugh that people overrate our players and underrate other clubs players..
Tuohy is worth a second rounder at best..
Everitt and Graham to Gold Coast for a second rounder, please.. Lucky to recieve a pack of smokes..
Reckon SOS and bolts told the medical team to make sure these players we recruit are ok, of course...
Marchbank will become a gun..
Now the blues are after Stewart.. Is a restricted agent or do the blues trade for both??
Reckon the blues will trade this years second and next years second for both players..
Hope we land Stewart, the kid can play..
Both boys will add at both ends..
With pick 5, hoping we land Brodie, plays inside and outside..
Bring on trade week, we gunna be busy.
Honeychurch?? Hearing whispers from within the walls..

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