Gibbs (don't look, Sinners) and a ruckman. Then I'd actually draft another young ruckmen mid-late draft.

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Walker - doubt they'd trade him after this year, but I'd take a second rounder

Murphy - Even with the captaincy, the trade to Melbourne still makes sense, with them offering scary money to anyone half decent. Pick 2 or 3 for Murphy, you'd be silly not to take it.

Gibbs - Value is at an all time low on the market. At best, a low first rounder, and given he's not really on a lot of coin, any free agency replacement wouldn't really suffice. A trade that is essentially Thomas and a first rounder for Gibbs pre ankle surgery makes for some interesting debate. Afterwards, too much of a gamble.

Simpson - Ideally there's a side willing to depart with a decent pick for him. Reckon he's spent. A team like the Dogs who lack outside run and carry may be fooled into thinking he still has something to offer, a team like Melbourne or GWS may see his leadership skills as a necessity. Even a third rounder, I'd take, and it makes sense.

Kreuzer - A top 10 pick, I'd take. Anything less is only marginally more than what we'd get for Warnock or Hampson, and as such seems backward.

Lucas - Bottle a first round draft pick up, play him all year, and then trade for him for a third rounder or lesser seems pointless. Straight swap for Mav Weller, may work.

Watson - Someone will take him. I don't care who or for what price.

Warnock - Pick 35 or higher.

Robinson - Pick 35 or higher.

Yarran - Pick 20 or higher.

Laidler - Pick 40 or above.

Hampson - Pick 35 or above.

McCarthy - Port could give us a can of Coke still?

Duigan - Surely Melbourne would be interested in anyone with two working legs?

Jamison - Top 20 pick or GTFO.

Casboult - Top 30 pick.

White - Top 40 pick.

Joseph - See Duigan

Ellard - See Joseph

Bell - Could see someone paying overs for him in spite of his serious deficiencies. Open to the idea. Pick 40 or higher.

Wouldn't trade/wouldn't get anything for:

Menzel
Judd
Buckley
McLean
Rowe
Temay
Betts
Bootsma
Henderson
Mitchell
McInnes
Armfield
Scotland
Waite
Davies
Graham
Garlett
Tuohy
Carrazzo
Collins
O'Keeffe
Curnow
Cachia
Dale

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Wouldn't trade Walker, Murphy or Kreuzer - but the rest not bad.

The blokes i wouldnt trade would be
Kreuzer
Gibbs
Murphy
Menzel
Bootsma
Henderson
Walker
Betts
Garlett
Yarran
Armfield
JAmison.

Everybody else is tradable to various degrees of interest....

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Why not Jamison Synbad? Last chance is this year. No cojones?

Cojones is my surname in Spanish...... but i wouldnt do it...cos i am not silly....
I like him for structure...
Noone ever trades big for a defender... unless of course its Matty 'Left Peg' Watson......
Bootsma is still a bit young...McCarthy has shown nothing.... im not sure how you think youll cover him....

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Gees Synners, I didn't see Lucas on your list. Only being a flower. Pretty good list actually. Probably like to add McInnis and Touhy.

mots yeah i like both of those players and they have to give up plenty over for them.
But im interested in structure players.. spirit of the club types (Yes add Tuohy)...and the flashy dazzling types.
Garletts improved alot.... Yarran im hoping can follow him.. and Betts is our CHF
Walker i was pissed off we forced him to look for another club 3 years ago.. plus im shit scared of running into DOA next time i do...

The others are all flawed or expendable...
Neither structure or brilliance ...

For the record im a huge fan of Murphy AND Gibbs.
just want to see them round off their games.. and i hate seeing number 1 picks fail along with a bunch of other Hughes picks... it would really come between me and Cazzesman when i see him next... he would have nothing to fall back on...

Oh and i would be frogmarching Lucas away from the club. four years and each of those he hasnt done anything to improve since the draft he arrived to the club... i @#$%&! hate that!!!.... not even his flower hair style!!!

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You wouldn't trade Murphy for pick 2 or 3?

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if someone paid overs for Walker, I'd entertain it, as good as he's been, he's probably the most replaceable high commodity we have.

Kreuzer I wouldn't want to trade, unless the offers for the other 2 rucks were awful, and we got a decent offer in return.

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he better be as good as OMeara if we did...
Id trade my left nut for Omeara... even if my surname became Cajona

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Im afraid i will have to introduce you to DOA.......he is a verrrry persuasive man... pretty sure he can get you to change your mind...

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That's like saying a woman has nice ankles when there are no obvious redeeming qualities...

It makes it hard to stay in the discussion. Players are either too valuable to us or not worth anything - talk about self-sabotage!

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I am with you Synners. I am a big fan of Murph and Gibbs also and AW has proved his real worth at both ends of the ground in the last 2 years. Two of him and Hendo is what we need now.

that would mean we make Shane O recruiter and Fev back to the club...

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

But we haven't got them. In other words, they are hardly a crutch to lean on. I'm not at all confident that we'd get much for Warnock or Hampson, not what most of us would hope for, I mean. All the cries that our list needs a lot of work are useless if we are not prepared to do the hard work. I would have thought that a Gibbs trade would get us something decent.

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Easy to have balls sitting behind a computer screen. So you do the trade for what... take a pot shot at the guy traded in/draft pick?

FWIW I would keep Jamo... really good FB and judging by his opponent reviews so do they. I'm tipping his teammates have comfort knowing he is there.

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Any chance of stealing the recruiters of Sydney/Geelong/Hawthorn?