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dane

Post subject: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:17 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am
Posts: 22357

GWS wrote:

Looking at it again Lang would be ahead of a number of guys in the core list.

We will see!

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buzzaaaah

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:34 pm

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am
Posts: 17892

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-1 ... anges-made

Buckley, Sheehan delisted
Palmer "retired"/delisted

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fjanyc

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:01 pm

Trevor Keogh

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:46 pm
Posts: 713
Location: New York

dane wrote:

Core
Marchbank (21)
Cripps (23)
Docherty (24)
Curnow (21)
Weitering (20)
Williamson (19)
Fisher (20)
Petrevski-Seton (20)
Silvagni (20)
Byrne (23)
Cuningham (21)
Plowman (24)
McKay (20)
Pickett (21)
Kennedy (21)
Pick 3 (18)
Pick 10 (18)

Ageing Core
Kreuzer (29)
Murphy (30)
E. Curnow (28)
Jones (27)

Potential
Macreadie (20)
Kerr (19)
Polson (20)
Lang (22)

Depth
Lamb (25)
Boekhorst (24)
Kerridge (25)
Smedts (25)
Wright (28)
Rowe (30)
A. Silvagni (30)
Phillips (26)
Casboult (28)
Lobbe (29)

Final Year
Simpson (34)
Thomas (30)

Gone
Graham (24)
White (29)
Buckley (25)
Palmer (29)

Future

FB: Plowman Marchbank Williamson
HB: Docherty Weitering Byrne
C: Cunningham Kennedy Petrevski-Seton
HF: J.Silvagni McKay C.Curnow
FF: XXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
R: XXXXXXX Cripps Pick 3
Int: XXXXXXX Pickett Fisher Pick 10

Next Year

FB: Jones Marchbank Williamson
HB: Docherty Weitering Byrne
C: Cunningham Kennedy Petrevski-Seton
HF: J.Silvagni Casboult C.Curnow
FF: Lamb McKay Wright
R: Kreuzer Cripps Murphy
Int: Plowman Pickett Fisher Pick 3
EMG: Pick 10 E.Curnow Simpson

This is excellent work. Thanks for taking the time to break the list down. It does highlight a question in my mind: why didn't we go for Schache given we had the trade currency to do the deal? He would seem to be a missing piece if you assume McKay can play CHF.

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Rexy

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:06 pm

Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am
Posts: 28227

I see Charlie/Harry as the perfect key position lead up/deep forward combination.

Surround them with smart skilled medium/small forwards and we're set.

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Rexy

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:37 pm

Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am
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36 current primary list players.

3 draft picks and a DFA ... or ... 4 draft picks ?

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dane

Post subject: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:47 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am
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fjanyc wrote:

dane wrote:

Would have liked him!

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Megaman

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:19 pm

Ken Hunter

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:26 am
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Location: Comparing orange boners with Hirdy

No place for him when Lynch comes

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:43 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 24709
Location: Bondi Beach

dane wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Great summary to look at.

Profile looks very good, only development between now and becoming a Top 4 team.

A couple of classy free agents would be handy too.

They are coming to the new destination club, no doubt.

...and...did someone say there's a BIG preseason before the current list next play a season prior to the FA's coming?

Dane, there will be BIG changes to your profile list at the end of 2018.
No doubt for the better.

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Blue Sombrero

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:28 am

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:56 am
Posts: 19501
Location: Progreso, Yucatan, MEXICO

GWS wrote:

Looking at it again Lang would be ahead of a number of guys in the core list.

I was going to post something along these lines but decided to read the thread.
Lang and Lamb may compete for the same role, Lang perhaps having more upside as far as midfield rotations are concerned. He and or C. Curnow might go into the midfield so Cripps etc can go forward. I don't see Lamb being able to do that. Or Jack.
I also agree with the poster about pulling the trigger too soon on Jones. He's 27 and should have three to four years left in him.

That would have to be a world record post for Dane as well. He is a bit like Bruce Doull usually and tries to make three words do when five are needed.

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dane

Post subject: List Management 2017

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:12 am

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am
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I’m a terrible human.

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Blue Vain

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:12 am

Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 17951

dane wrote:

I’m terrible human.

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chubbyruss

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:07 am

Wayne Johnston

Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:59 am
Posts: 8628

Megaman wrote:

No place for him when Lynch comes

Thought Lynch was going to the filth :wink:

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dane

Post subject: List Management 2017

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:36 am

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am
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Blue Vain wrote:

dane wrote:

I’m terrible human.

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toddkurnski

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:40 pm

Robert Walls

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 am
Posts: 3581

After next years draft trade we will have completely rebuilt the list after 4 off seasons with the current team in charge.
SOS has done a good job identifying anyone with currency and extracting some value out of them
Menzel
Henderson
Yarran
Bell
Tuohy
Gibbs
out for picks and players. He has managed to turn that into
Marchbank
McKay
Curnow
Williamson
Cuningham
Plowman
Pickett
Kennedy
Pick 10
Lang
Polson
Lamb
Kerridge
Smedts
Wright
Phillips
Pick 30

Adding SPS, Weitering, Fisher etc through normal draft picks.

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toddkurnski

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:51 pm

Robert Walls

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 am
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Last year of the great overhaul next year
Delisted
Graham
White

Have to play improve and play consistent senior footy to stay
Boekhorst
Kerridge
Smedts
Phillips

Retired
Rowe
Simpson
Thomas

Who Knows
Casboult

Probably 6 changes with maybe up to 9 changes.

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Ockham's Razor

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:59 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm
Posts: 1689

kezza wrote:

From The Whisper in today's HUN;
"Which club, and its high-profile manager, have taken over the mantle from Essendon** as the hardest to deal with during trade week?"
Wonder if this is SOS.

It's the Blues.

Crows paid overs and whinged.

Rockliff wanted serious $$$ - SOS said no way, Blues weren't that keen and he sooked it up, went to Port and got the $$$ h wanted;

Stringer wanted $600k plus - blues held strong, stringer went to Ess;

SOS played hard at the trade table, we are no longer the leagues bitch.

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Donstuie

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:09 pm

Bruce Doull

Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 6:10 pm
Posts: 33618
Location: COMFORTABLY DISSATISFIED

SOS is only "difficult to deal with" for those who try to @#$%&! him around.

I'm sure if you asked Stephen Wells (who funnily enough doesn't @#$%&! around) about SOS' approach you'd get a much different response.

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ryan2000

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:03 am

Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:22 pm
Posts: 4678
Location: Melbourne

We're not difficult to deal with........... we're just not walkovers anymore.

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:28 am

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 24709
Location: Bondi Beach

toddkurnski wrote:

This is an amazing post!

WOW.

I believe it but I'd like to see the breakdown because this is a remarkable achievement should be the basis of a news report on list management and rebuilding without any assistance from the AFL.

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: List Management 2017

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:31 am

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:03 am
Posts: 24709
Location: Bondi Beach

Ockham's Razor wrote:

kezza wrote:

From The Whisper in today's HUN;
"Which club, and its high-profile manager, have taken over the mantle from Essendon*** as the hardest to deal with during trade week?"
Wonder if this is SOS.

The Ice Blue man :lol:

We are blessed.
If so, the tables have turned.....come on down No 17.

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