We should be able to get a first round pick out of Geelong for De Koning. They’ll have three picks between 11 (via GC priority) & 18 (theirs, plus WC).

Not that I’d be 100% behind the idea of paying Sydney two firsts for Papley, Geelong is the logical place to find one.

If not for Papley, then there would be good economies of scale with a player like Zach Reid from Gippsland Power. Jones is probably 2-3 years max off calling time, which would be a nice transition for young tall.

_________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Ok I’ll bite. Why would we trade TDK?

An untouchable I would have thought TDK
Not sure I would be giving 10 year ruckman for a forward pocket

I will bite too.

I'll bite anyone who thinks about giving away The First Hand to the ball: tap or mark.
He will be better than Kreuzer and what was expected of Hampson, Jacobs and Warnock.

TDK is the real deal.
I've known that when he was a 20yo.
Now that he's rucking like a 26yo, well....The First Hand.

One day you will hear:

The King DeKoning: The First Hand at the ball

nic name King Handers The First aka King Handers I

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Now, back to your post

We wont pay 2 First Rounders, and if so, it would be 2020 and 2021

No need to trade TDK, as if we would.

We have enough kids for now.
There's only room for kids, when, for the same reason as the last 2 years, we couldn't snag a target.

We need fattening for a dip at the Premiership.
Our depth will give us longevity to keep topping up.

Don't worry about TDK, we have plnety of First Round Surplus, its GWS like, ridiculous.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

For a couple of reasons.

1. Pittonet is better and, having just turned 24, can fill the role for another 150 games.
2. Geelong want TDK and are able to pay a good price.

_________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

What the faaark ! trade Tommy ? stop it now........all conversation on this subject is gotta be stopped now.

_________________
All my dangerous friends

Two out of every three ruck contests, The First Hand is attached to his opponent’s wrist.

_________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Yeah nah. Happy with Pittonet, especially given he was low cost. He hasn’t played a lot of AFL and can still get better. But watch TDK’s last quarter from last week and tell me he’s not a budding superstar. Absolutely no way we let him leave, especially given he’s contracted for next year.

May as well trade Weiters, Walsh and Crippa while we’re at it

_________________
Our tradition demands success!

I can’t imagine there is any scenario in which we trade TDK. Unlike others I am not so bullish on Pitto. He is honest, but limited physically. We’ve had a ruckman who can’t get off the ground in Kreuzer and you get exposed very quickly.

What is the fascination with Tom Papley
I like to know
He has been putrid of late
Other teams have worked him out

More to the point what is the fascination with people wanting to trade anything that resembles talent?.......FMD, it’s like an episode of bizarro world.

On another tack used 35 players this season off our list and obviously didn’t access Marchbank and Charlie at all
Kemp also obviously injured
Out of the rest disappointing neither stocker or O’Brien played to this stage
However at least given most of list a go and a few debutants along the way

Sinclair is deadset the worst ruckman in the game. He’s hardly the sort of scalp to underpin your coming of age story.

De Koning is 10kg short of being competitive in one on one contests and his athleticism is grossly overstated. Any idiot can fly for a mark from the back of the pack. Wake me up when he sticks one. Better yet, let me know if he’s ever in position to be better than a 50-50 chance for a stoppage.

Pittonet is up & going right now. So is the market for a De Koning trade.

_________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

TDK not going anywhere if its not two top 3 picks.

I’m hardly claiming TDK has come of age. He’s 20, has played 7 games, has huge potential and we’d be mad to get rid of him. We’d immediately have to find another ruckman, perhaps even two more, with Kreuzer gone and Levi in his 30’s. Can’t see your logic sorry. As I said I’m happy with Pittonet but he was extremely ordinary for a month, then better against GWS thankfully. Has only played 19 games himself so still has plenty of scope to improve. We need both.

Yeah, you've backed the wrong horse in this race Crusader.

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I agree with him that Sinclair is a hopeless ruck : I posted the very same caveat in the post-game thread when we were praising TDK. But, like everyone else but Crusader, I see his huge leap, his agility and ground level skills and realise we have a gem. Not at all concerned that a 6-foot-8 20 year old is a bit skinny, they all are. He needs a haircut, though.

I've seen TdK play in vfl also.
A competitor.
Plays like Krooz when the ball is on the ground.
Excellent vision.
Good disposal by hand and foot.
Extraordinary athleticism so can jump with the best of them.
Is very young and physical development hindered by injuries at wrong time of the year (2019 knee injury in first preseason game).
Is a ruckman / forward and can do both.
As a foundation to build our team on is up there with Weiters and Walsh.