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I won’t lie Bondi, I’m starting to fear this appointment is going to turn into $#1t.


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It just occurred to me that Graham Wright already holds a special place in Carlton folklore:


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I never thought Cook was coming in to blow the place up.

I was always of the mind it was to add professionalism and stability to a chaotic club that was up and down like a yo-yo and had failed to adjust to the 21st century AFL.
I believe he has done that.

Wright might be the better person to fix our playing list and assistant coaching issues though.

Also IIRC, Wright was at Collingwood when they tried to get Voss but due to him being unavailable during the interview process because of finals, McRae was ultimately given the job. And once Port were out and both Ross and Clarkson said no, we pounced on him.

I can't see Voss getting the boot until they have tried the above changes first.


Agree on every point.

Can't see Vossy given the boot.

Interesting in Govs peomotional interview for the Kings clash, he stated they had practised forward entry all summer, and it just hasn't clicked yet. Its not that they aren't working their "arses off".

I can testify we were much more measured in our ball movement and targeting in the F50 in the preseason. Only seen that style a couple times. I think the players upfield rush too much and lack composure in real game situation.

I also think that if players nailed their set shots at goal this year, not only would we have won more games (nourishment, improved ladder position, confidence) the players would get a minute's rest as the ball goes back to the centre. When they miss, they are chasing tail again. A reason why we run out of puff in last quarters.

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Braithy wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
I never thought Cook was coming in to blow the place up.
I was always of the mind it was to add professionalism and stability to a chaotic club that was up and down like a yo-yo and had failed to adjust to the 21st century AFL.
I believe he has done that.
Wright might be the better person to fix our playing list and assistant coaching issues though.
Also IIRC, Wright was at Collingwood when they tried to get Voss but due to him being unavailable during the interview process because of finals, McRae was ultimately given the job. And once Port were out and both Ross and Clarkson said no, we pounced on him.
I can't see Voss getting the boot until they have tried the above changes first.



nope. wright didn't rate voss. voss never got the call for a 2nd interview. wright identified mcrae and pretty much single handedly bought him over. he was the man wright wanted when he parachuted buckley out of there.

there's lots of media out there backing this up including an old interview with wright where he said as much.

Please provide a link.
All I can see it article after article of Voss saying he didn't have the mental capacity to go through a lengthy interview process when he was preparing Port for the PF's.
Mc Rae was appointed on the 1st of September 2021, 10 days before the PF.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:36 pm 
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If a tiny amount of what is floating around that Wright is going to do is true then Wright is the last person who should be leading the club.
If Wright is leaking this he would go down as the worse CEO ever to existed.
I think that all that we are reading is the biggest pile of bullshit ever to be written and anyone claiming that they are in the know are totally full of shite.
There is only one person who knows what he is going to do and until you hear it come from his mouth it is utter crap

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:46 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
I never thought Cook was coming in to blow the place up.
I was always of the mind it was to add professionalism and stability to a chaotic club that was up and down like a yo-yo and had failed to adjust to the 21st century AFL.
I believe he has done that.
Wright might be the better person to fix our playing list and assistant coaching issues though.
Also IIRC, Wright was at Collingwood when they tried to get Voss but due to him being unavailable during the interview process because of finals, McRae was ultimately given the job. And once Port were out and both Ross and Clarkson said no, we pounced on him.
I can't see Voss getting the boot until they have tried the above changes first.



nope. wright didn't rate voss. voss never got the call for a 2nd interview. wright identified mcrae and pretty much single handedly bought him over. he was the man wright wanted when he parachuted buckley out of there.

there's lots of media out there backing this up including an old interview with wright where he said as much.

Please provide a link.
All I can see it article after article of Voss saying he didn't have the mental capacity to go through a lengthy interview process when he was preparing Port for the PF's.
Mc Rae was appointed on the 1st of September 2021, 10 days before the PF.

People in Wright’s position would never let on that they didn’t rate a candidate. The Scum laughed Dimma out of the building over a laptop & they’ll continue to pay the price.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:58 pm 
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If a tiny amount of what is floating around that Wright is going to do is true then Wright is the last person who should be leading the club.
If Wright is leaking this he would go down as the worse CEO ever to existed.
I think that all that we are reading is the biggest pile of bullshit ever to be written and anyone claiming that they are in the know are totally full of shite.
There is only one person who knows what he is going to do and until you hear it come from his mouth it is utter crap

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Exactly.

This is no more than media suckholes clamouring for clicks. These dimwits are pumping him up like Preistly’s appointment has invited the infamous JP Morgan toe cutter into the building.

These snivelling piss bags would self-immolate if they met the real thing.

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Crusader wrote:
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If a tiny amount of what is floating around that Wright is going to do is true then Wright is the last person who should be leading the club.
If Wright is leaking this he would go down as the worse CEO ever to existed.
I think that all that we are reading is the biggest pile of bullshit ever to be written and anyone claiming that they are in the know are totally full of shite.
There is only one person who knows what he is going to do and until you hear it come from his mouth it is utter crap

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Exactly.

This is no more than media suckholes clamouring for clicks. These dimwits are pumping him up like Preistly’s appointment has invited the infamous JP Morgan toe cutter into the building.

These snivelling piss bags would self-immolate if they met the real thing.

I agree.
They will all speculate as they have nothing to go on and nothing better to do.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 9:34 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
I never thought Cook was coming in to blow the place up.
I was always of the mind it was to add professionalism and stability to a chaotic club that was up and down like a yo-yo and had failed to adjust to the 21st century AFL.
I believe he has done that.
Wright might be the better person to fix our playing list and assistant coaching issues though.
Also IIRC, Wright was at Collingwood when they tried to get Voss but due to him being unavailable during the interview process because of finals, McRae was ultimately given the job. And once Port were out and both Ross and Clarkson said no, we pounced on him.
I can't see Voss getting the boot until they have tried the above changes first.



nope. wright didn't rate voss. voss never got the call for a 2nd interview. wright identified mcrae and pretty much single handedly bought him over. he was the man wright wanted when he parachuted buckley out of there.

there's lots of media out there backing this up including an old interview with wright where he said as much.

Please provide a link.
All I can see it article after article of Voss saying he didn't have the mental capacity to go through a lengthy interview process when he was preparing Port for the PF's.
Mc Rae was appointed on the 1st of September 2021, 10 days before the PF.

People in Wright’s position would never let on that they didn’t rate a candidate. The Scum laughed Dimma out of the building over a laptop & they’ll continue to pay the price.

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I won’t lie Bondi, I’m starting to fear this appointment is going to turn into $#1t.


Just one more messiah bro I swear this time it'll work bro jus trust me bro.


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I might be in the minority but I hope Wright comes in and does nothing . I want the bloke to come in and before he does anything get the feel of the joint . See what makes the joint tick . When he's done due diligence and got his feet comfortable under the desk then make the moves he feels necessary . The last thing this Club is some cowboy in the joint trying to get a few cheap scalps under his belt . A nice quiet reasoned approach is what I want . A grandstander is the last thing this Club needs . And from what I hear Wright rather than be a big noter is a quiet achiever . He goes about his business in a precise methodical manner without the fanfare . Seems like exactly what we need . He's a don't talk , do sort of character from what I hear .
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I might be in the minority but I hope Wright comes in and does nothing . I want the bloke to come in and before he does anything get the feel of the joint . See what makes the joint tick . When he's done due diligence and got his feet comfortable under the desk then make the moves he feels necessary . The last thing this Club is some cowboy in the joint trying to get a few cheap scalps under his belt . A nice quiet reasoned approach is what I want . A grandstander is the last thing this Club needs . And from what I hear Wright rather than be a big noter is a quiet achiever . He goes about his business in a precise methodical manner without the fanfare . Seems like exactly what we need . He's a don't talk , do sort of character from what I hear .
Good Luck to the bloke .

He's been getting a feel for things since the start of the year Mick.
I doubt he does too much we hear about until the end of the season anyway

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https://x.com/heraldsunsport/status/1929274268346712543

“He knows what he wants and the way he wants the game played and Carlton don’t play that game,” a former colleague of Wright said this week.

Carlton’s messy and lopsided salary cap won’t be something Wright will be happy about.

The Blues have fallen into the trap of paying big money for their “stars” such as Charlie Curnow, Harry McKay, Sam Walsh, Patrick Cripps, Jacob Weitering and Adam Cerra which hasn’t left much in the bank for anyone else. It’s no surprise the depth of their list is poor.

Wright will be particularly aghast with Zac Williams’ contract. He signed a monster six-year deal worth $900,000 per season when he arrived from GWS in October 2020.

Included in that deal were CPI increases in the salary cap which has gone up significantly since, meaning Williams will be on around $1 million this year and he still has one more year of the contract to run.

Premiership teams spread the salary cap load. Wright saw this at Hawthorn and then instigated it quickly at Collingwood.

“What Wrighty learnt from it was don’t get starry-eyed about your players, don’t get emotional,” a Hawks insider said. “If you want a player and he’s going to play a role for you, go and get him and don’t worry about the cost because you are getting him for the right reasons.

“Equally don’t get a player who is going to blow your cap up or if a player has been a wonderful servant but you can do something else, or there is a compelling reason why you need to save money, you have to be clear eyed about it. He learnt that from Dunstall.”


The article below is from the same rag only 2 days later, and some choose to believe the Williams click bait because Ralphy used the word "meaning" to make it look as though the guess is ... meaningful :lol:

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CHARLIE CURNOW AND HARRY MCKAY (CARLTON)

Carlton has absolutely no plans to trade its best two players Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay, adamant it would not even listen to offers for its star duo.

Reports this week have suggested the Blues are open for business on trades for its megastars.

But Carlton views Curnow in particular as its unicorn – an irreplaceable star who will be part of its long-term future.

It would be preposterous to trade him any time let alone in a weak draft with few key tall prospects of his calibre.

McKay has also won two of the club’s four games this season off his own boot.

Carlton’s view this week is that it is an unwelcome distraction which has no validity within the club.

Michael Voss will likely be coaching for his future next year and he would be in fantasy land to voluntarily trade Curnow in the same month where he is likely to lose free agent Tom De Koning.

New CEO Graham Wright will have ideas on the list makeup but will be part of a list management team.

Carlton has not given up hope of retaining De Koning but Wright’s list management views will be different to the Pies salary cap dump because Collingwood had no choice except to jettison stars including Brodie Grundy and Adam Treloar.

Carlton can make prudent, careful decisions, having looked past Dan Houston specifically to save cap space for De Koning and 2026 free agent Sam Walsh.

While its cap is tight, it is not in need of a Collingwood-style fire sale
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/where-the-afls-biggest-stars-sit-as-all-eyes-turn-to-bye-period-meetings-and-negotiations/news-story/dfad8b1ac1781603e19e494889454576

Obviously the Editor has given the writer(s) a stern order to fix the bullshit without having to apologise which I'm sure was a response to a likely Carlton FC approach for starting unnecessary, baseless rumours. The HS doesnt need a Carlton boycott similar to what Ch 7 is experiencing from the Kane Cornes fallout with NM and Bulldogs.

Lets be clear, Collingwood were in huge trouble as they were about to go over the salary cap by a squillion, and not only be forced to sell players they couldn't pay under the Sc, but also be fined and lose draft picks. That is what you call seriously bad management. Collingwood didnt fire sale players because they were great managers, its because they were forced to. Carlton is NOT in that position. So please stop giving these writers your approval, even if it suits your agenda. Its just Fake news.

Our main problem this year is depth.

Austin, and Lloyd backed our best 23 to get the job done and thought the injury issues that hampered us was behind us.
Hence, we have planned to draft in kids before the compromised drafts (plural) for the new Tassie team.

Unfortunately we have endured this year a minimum of 5 missing due to injury in one game against Geelong (we won easily) but usually we have had over 8 out injured , peaking at 13 recently, which is worse than last year.

What we have seen is we can't cover our injuries because we lack the depth. Hence our skills and stamina to run out games have been missing. Put game plan aside, and lets just stick to the quality of our "depth' players ... Evans (24), White (21), Motlop (22), Carroll (20), Campo.L (19), Binns (20), Moir (20), Pittonet (on one leg), Young (we wanted out) ... Is that the profile required of a Premiership List? No way. Some of our best 23 players should be our depth: Docherty, Gov, Fantasia, Haynes, Young

We have 4 kids on offer come seasons end: 3 NGA's(we have finally got with the program with players from this source ... think Jamarra, Quaynor...free hits) and a FS, Harry Dean.

To get these kids onboard, if they are good enough and we know Ison and Dean are, we need to make spots for them.

What do we do? We know we need more depth, and we know we need probably at least 5 experienced players to cover (Marchbank, Martin, Cuningham, Kennedy and Owies) we failed to do last year (thank god we landed Haynes for no picks and min salary).

How do we get the depth in with no first round pick, unless TDK leaves, giving us a full set of picks for 2025 and 2026 (we will need our first or obtain a pile of 2nds for Cody Walker in 2026).

So we need lets say 5 experienced players to give us depth, plus 3 kids (NGA/FS). We need 7 picks to trade.

Hang on. We need to make 7 spots available to fit them in. We know 2 LTI replacements will have to go, White and Flynn Young (or Evans instead) to give us our max 44 players on the list.

Lets say Lemmey, Monohan (NGA) and Wilson make way for the 3 new kids, Ison, Dean, Clark.

How do we create spots to bring in quality depth? We have to delist or Trade.

Logically, we would let go our "out of contract" and "oldest" players: Docherty, McGovern, Fantasia, Haynes and Newman to create spots. If we lose these 5, we are looking for 5 new players to cover their spots PLUS the 5 we are after to cover Marchbank, Martin.....etc

Where the hell are we going to find all thse picks?

Its not a SC problem we have. We need to create spots and find draft picks to improve our best 23 and our depth. Until you realise this your focus will be on a rumoured maxes out SC.

FA and DFA to give us some depth without picks, but we have no choice but to drop more kids, instead of dropping depth players.

Whose in the gun? Ive already mentioned Wilson and Lemmey for Ison and Dean, but also Charleson and Moir, and perhaps injury prone Kemp, Gov, Fantasia, and too expensive to pay out Williams $600K coz he's contracted.

Conundrum.

Make your choice. Looks like we really need for TDK to walk for a first round pick, which could get us Bergman, and make some hard choices. That's why we are even discussing Trading players. Its not SC issue. Our stars are contracted and if they don't want to go, they don't have to. Treloar, Grundy, Stevenson and Philips knew they had to leave or they would cause the Pies huge problems going over the SC.

No one of us know anything about our SC. There's no proof its at 95%, we have a war chest, or its as tight as the rumour mongers say.

Who goes to make room for 3 NGAs and 10 new experienced players?

Who the targets are is another discussion.

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jezzarules wrote:
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I might be in the minority but I hope Wright comes in and does nothing . I want the bloke to come in and before he does anything get the feel of the joint . See what makes the joint tick . When he's done due diligence and got his feet comfortable under the desk then make the moves he feels necessary . The last thing this Club is some cowboy in the joint trying to get a few cheap scalps under his belt . A nice quiet reasoned approach is what I want . A grandstander is the last thing this Club needs . And from what I hear Wright rather than be a big noter is a quiet achiever . He goes about his business in a precise methodical manner without the fanfare . Seems like exactly what we need . He's a don't talk , do sort of character from what I hear .
Good Luck to the bloke .

He's been getting a feel for things since the start of the year Mick.
I doubt he does too much we hear about until the end of the season anyway

Yeah , I'm sure he's already sussing things out but he's still not in the chair . I just don't want shoot first ask questions later stuff . None of this all guns blazing sort of stuff . Look before you leap is my motto . I"m over the messiah thing . We need a quiet achiever type . Quiet but deadly if you like .

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Mickstar wrote:
jezzarules wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
I might be in the minority but I hope Wright comes in and does nothing . I want the bloke to come in and before he does anything get the feel of the joint . See what makes the joint tick . When he's done due diligence and got his feet comfortable under the desk then make the moves he feels necessary . The last thing this Club is some cowboy in the joint trying to get a few cheap scalps under his belt . A nice quiet reasoned approach is what I want . A grandstander is the last thing this Club needs . And from what I hear Wright rather than be a big noter is a quiet achiever . He goes about his business in a precise methodical manner without the fanfare . Seems like exactly what we need . He's a don't talk , do sort of character from what I hear .
Good Luck to the bloke .

He's been getting a feel for things since the start of the year Mick.
I doubt he does too much we hear about until the end of the season anyway

Yeah , I'm sure he's already sussing things out but he's still not in the chair . I just don't want shoot first ask questions later stuff . None of this all guns blazing sort of stuff . Look before you leap is my motto . I"m over the messiah thing . We need a quiet achiever type . Quiet but deadly if you like .



The media are pitching Wright as the Messiah

1 plus 1 = 41

Media need stories....Carlton stories.

How one can still believe what they print after all these years of being found out as bullshit artists.

The believers are their targets. Click bait.

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jezzarules wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
I might be in the minority but I hope Wright comes in and does nothing . I want the bloke to come in and before he does anything get the feel of the joint . See what makes the joint tick . When he's done due diligence and got his feet comfortable under the desk then make the moves he feels necessary . The last thing this Club is some cowboy in the joint trying to get a few cheap scalps under his belt . A nice quiet reasoned approach is what I want . A grandstander is the last thing this Club needs . And from what I hear Wright rather than be a big noter is a quiet achiever . He goes about his business in a precise methodical manner without the fanfare . Seems like exactly what we need . He's a don't talk , do sort of character from what I hear .
Good Luck to the bloke .

He's been getting a feel for things since the start of the year Mick.
I doubt he does too much we hear about until the end of the season anyway

We’re in a bit of strife if the last six months are an accurate ‘feel’.

Has the new President showed up yet, or is he still trying to run the farm from the kitchen window?

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Traveller86 wrote:
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I won’t lie Bondi, I’m starting to fear this appointment is going to turn into $#1t.


Just one more messiah bro I swear this time it'll work bro jus trust me bro.


He is the messiah, and I should know, I’ve followed a few.


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"Reports this week have suggested the Blues are open for business on trades for its megastars." (Reports we made, by the way.)

And that's how footy media works. Say something, then spend two days getting people's reaction to the thing you yourself said... then another day saying the opposite, but reporting on 'speculation'.


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"Reports this week have suggested the Blues are open for business on trades for its megastars." (Reports we made, by the way.)

And that's how footy media works. Say something, then spend two days getting people's reaction to the thing you yourself said... then another day saying the opposite, but reporting on 'speculation'.

Yeah Champ . Just sayin " the type of bloke I want running the show . Stephen Gough was a low key type and there was none better .

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bluechampion wrote:
"Reports this week have suggested the Blues are open for business on trades for its megastars." (Reports we made, by the way.)

And that's how footy media works. Say something, then spend two days getting people's reaction to the thing you yourself said... then another day saying the opposite, but reporting on 'speculation'.



Every team would say the same, but do you a source for that quote from anyone at Carlton?

Or, is it something that came from here

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It comes after veteran AFL journalist Damian Barrett said Wright, who’s expected to take over from Brian Cook as early as July, would be prepared to shake things up at the Blues and could be willing to listen to trade offers for the pair of Coleman medallists.

“They’ve got some big-name players on big contracts. I’ve got no doubt, in fact I know, that if a club was to come to the Carlton footy club and Graham Wright with a feasible offer for some of those names, he will engage,” Barrett told Nine’s Footy Classified.

“Curnow and McKay ... if you want to put a proposal to them with three (or) two first-round draft picks, do it. The conversation can be had, and I would imagine will be had.”


https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-2025-nasiah-wanganeenmilera-could-become-next-10-million-man-carlton-blues-laugh-off-charlie-curnow-departure-rumours/news-story/ff7c95736104353440a9729f8dbed65f

Ralphy made a similar comment/ innuendo on Monday along with an even more outlandish headline that bla bla plus bla bla bla would be

quote]"meaning Williams on a million dollars this year, with next year to come"[/quote]

This is exactly Barrets wording....

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“They’ve got some big-name players on big contracts. I’ve got no doubt, in fact I know, that if a club was to come to the Carlton footy club and Graham Wright with a feasible offer for some of those names, he will engage,” Barrett told Nine’s Footy Classified.

“Curnow and McKay ... if you want to put a proposal to them with three (or) two first-round draft picks, do it. The conversation can be had, and I would imagine will be had.”


Can you understand what he's doing? He's making shit up knowing everyone would be courteous enough to take a call from someone in their industry and hear what someone wants to say :grin:

THAT IS NOT FACT, that is common sense. If you believe Barrett you're a fool, and I'd advise anyone to not let him trick you with his wording, which is mostly ambiguous to catch a headline like bluechampion alludes to.

Today on afl.com video Barrett said when asked by fellow compare

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"Is it Fact or Furphy" what you said on Monday?",


After taking a minute to pause and think of an answer that will not get him in more trouble he then said

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OMG :lol: What a fkwit.

Then Barret continued with

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" Potentially, Wright will explore any conversation"
...that's the common sense I'm talking about. No one has told Barrett anything....and he finishes off with a classic (braithy are you reading this?)

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"6 players take up the entire salary Cap".
Have you heard anything so stupid? Implies the other 38 players are not getting paid.

TDK hasn't signed yet. Walshy is next year. Who are the 6? Harry Charlie Weiters and Cripps...who are the other 2? Oh Williams, ofcourse it is. Yeah right.

AS far as I am concerned, I have seen no evidence that anything has come from the club,let alone Wright. Nothing confirmed either amongst the jounos making up stories, and its just standard Carlton headlines based on journo's of mainsteam media speculating and footy forums passing on that speculation from media and presenting it asfact. :lol:

And the response to Barrets "Facts" from his colleagues:

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But McFarlane and Ralph were in agreement that no such deals would eventuate.

“Absolutely no chance they’ll entertain an offer on Charlie Curnow. All this talk about Charlie could be up ... he’s staying,” McFarlane said on Fox Footy.

Ralph said: “Basically, what they’ve said to us today is if there was a unicorn shop where we could lose one unicorn and they could go and get another one, they’d be more than happy to trade ... they have basically laughed about this situation.

“There’s no way that they’ll be trading him. There are very few players in the AFL who are untradeable, untouchable — he is one of them.”

On the chances of McKay being dealt, Ralph said: “Again, there’s no way they’ll trade him, in a draft that is very weak on key-position players. He’s been involved in three wins; he’s won two of those games off his boot this year.


Bloody speculators tricking our Blue Brethren, how embarrassment. :wink:

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