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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:11 pm 
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Surely we appeal the Owies suspension. That should be downgraded from medium to low impact.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:30 pm 
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Surely we appeal the Owies suspension. That should be downgraded from medium to low impact.


We have to, owies got a free for the tackle, then gets suspended???? Ludicrous system

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Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

Pretty clear cut I reckon, free kick or not.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 6:55 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

That speaks to the conduct, but they were both assessed the same (careless).

The only difference in the assessment is one was graded as low impact and the other as medium. The grading of the impact should look at the impact of the incident on the victim. Both Cadman and Higgins were uninjured - but, if anything, Cadman hit the ground harder than Higgins did. We must appeal.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:16 pm 
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I shouldn't look too far ahead but if we, say, got to a PF, there would likely be no games in Melbourne for us. Brisbane, somewhere in Sydney, and then Adelaide if Port beat Geelong week 1.


Didn’t we beat Brisbane in Brisbane, GWS in Sydney and Port in Adelaide this season??


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Yes, no and yes.

No issue being those sides anywhere but that would be 3 weeks travelling in a row possibly.

Anyway, see what happens this week.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:30 pm 
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i thought Young was good yesterday so not sure why people want him dropped. And yes he was better than Weiters yesterday, who was left out of position heaps of times. Young was gutsy and tooks some nice marks. We may stress when he has ball in hand, but his marking and spoiling are worthy of him being in the team.

And how is McGovern better than him completely.? McGoverns kicking may be better, but his half arsed attempts and clangers recently have been dumbfounded.

Weiters needs to be a leader and professional and get over any dislike for young - if at all this is true or not.

McGoverns body language in telling people off left a bad taste in my mouth recently, especially given he lost us the Collingwood game, stunk it up against Westcoast, and is constantly sooking to the umps and is always injured.

While Young may not be as talented, he goes away to the reserves and back into the team and at least tries. He may shirk the contest, but im hoping we point out his faults and try and solve them with him rather than throwing him away.



Because he is a rabbit in headlights. I get he took a few good marks but he gave away the football consistently. He will easily be beaten by Daniher and doesn't have the speed or engine to run with Hipwood. He just doesn't compete hard enough. Saying that he will probably need to play to release McGovern.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:38 pm 
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Young was solid enough against the Saints however their tall forwards (other than the injured King) are pretty ordinary. The week prior against West Coast conditions were wet and windy making life easy for a tall defender.
I hope we don't play him vs the Lions.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:49 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

Pretty clear cut I reckon, free kick or not.

I think it was that Owies was graded as medium impact and Jones one was low impact.
Jones got fined on that basis and Owies suspended.
Did Higgins go off the ground for an assessment? Does anyone know?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:15 pm 
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kezza wrote:
bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

Pretty clear cut I reckon, free kick or not.

I think it was that Owies was graded as medium impact and Jones one was low impact.
Jones got fined on that basis and Owies suspended.
Did Higgins go off the ground for an assessment? Does anyone know?


I asked the same question in another thread. I don't know because I watch on mute so I don't hear that Muppet BT.
If he didn't go off, why not?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:26 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

That speaks to the conduct, but they were both assessed the same (careless).

The only difference in the assessment is one was graded as low impact and the other as medium. The grading of the impact should look at the impact of the incident on the victim. Both Cadman and Higgins were uninjured - but, if anything, Cadman hit the ground harder than Higgins did. We must appeal.


Nothin" surer Sue . Momentum carried Higgins forward . Jones slammed Cadman . Absurd in the extreme .

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:32 pm 
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This.

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i'd love to see lord over cerra. not bcos he's better, he is at this stage more trustworthy to finish the game.

doc can't be looked at, imo. he looked a step slow before the knee injury.

if fantasia is healthy, i'm playing him.

elijah could almost be the 7th defender to do a job on one of their smalls.


And this.

Not too many changes please. Only bring in players that are cherry ripe.

I'd rather watch the kids get outclassed, than the veterans getting worked on by the physio.

I don't agree with the "it's an elimination final, so we have to take a chance with selection" mindset. Finals footy will break players that aren't fit enough.

Bring in one of Charlie and Harry, whoever is fitter (no chance they are both fully fit), leave Kemp up forward.

If Motlop is named over Raz, we riot.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:33 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

That speaks to the conduct, but they were both assessed the same (careless).

The only difference in the assessment is one was graded as low impact and the other as medium. The grading of the impact should look at the impact of the incident on the victim. Both Cadman and Higgins were uninjured - but, if anything, Cadman hit the ground harder than Higgins did. We must appeal.

Absolutely.

I wouldn’t even try & argue that Higgins surrendered in the tackle (even though he did), which contributed to the dangerous nature of the tackle.

He’s kicked the winner ffs.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:43 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
bluebo baggers wrote:
Jones pinned 1 arm, Owies pinned 2.

That speaks to the conduct, but they were both assessed the same (careless).

The only difference in the assessment is one was graded as low impact and the other as medium. The grading of the impact should look at the impact of the incident on the victim. Both Cadman and Higgins were uninjured - but, if anything, Cadman hit the ground harder than Higgins did. We must appeal.


Yep really good explanation ABNS. Hopefully we do.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:49 pm 
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The Owies v Jones tackle is just plain and simple bias. You cannot possibly argue that Owies tackle is more dangerous than Jones.
Not in anyway - yet here we are again.

ps. The pinning of the one arm is the more dangerous 'legal' change that is going to bring a legal case against the AFL. Flowers.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:52 pm 
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The Owies v Jones tackle is just plain and simple bias. You cannot possibly argue that Owies tackle is more dangerous than Jones.
Not in anyway - yet here we are again.

ps. The pinning of the one arm is the more dangerous 'legal' change that is going to bring a legal case against the AFL. Flowers.


Exactly . Up market chicken wing sling . Really against it myself .

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:32 pm 
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The Blueman prophecy may well have begun at around 8:30pm last night ..... Just so crazy how we got into the 8 ...... pretty much to script !!

Anyway if this continues and if Port beat Geelong next week it means that we don't play in Melbourne till the Grand Final. We travel to Brisbane, Sydney and then Adelaide.

Of course, it can all go to sh#t too.

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I wonder if the club will do a live site at Princes Park like last year. Hope so, was very good

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:47 am 
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since higgins got straight up, and then later kicks the winning goal. impact has to be low for owies, and on appeal that's reduced to a fine, yeah?

unless owies has prior? does he?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:07 am 
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Braithy wrote:
since higgins got straight up, and then later kicks the winning goal. impact has to be low for owies, and on appeal that's reduced to a fine, yeah?

unless owies has prior? does he?
If there was no HIA done, then I can't see how impact could be graded as medium.
If the MRO/AFL is going to insist on medium impact, then Kilda should be under scrutiny for letting a potentially concussed player stay on the field.
Give them a fine to go with their poorer draft picks and more difficult 2025 fixture.

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