Who plays on Charlie Cameron?
He soundly beat Newman earlier in the season and I'm not sure Saad or Docherty would be ideal matchups. Maybe a good reason to bring Boyd in to the side? We don't want to be hearing "Country Roads" by John Denver all night.

Harry and Martin are the two certain changes. I would think Kennedy probably makes way for Harry since he effectively took his role in the team.

For Martin it has to be one of Owies, Cuningham, or Fogarty. I think as a group we don’t quite get enough out of these guys. They all play their role but too often they don’t impact the game. When you get 5-10 touches, you have to make them count and last night all 3 of these guys butchered multiple chances, particularly Fogarty.

Motlop is a cut above that group IMO. He’s so much more dangerous around goal and he only needs a few touches to hurt the opposition. He also leads the team in F50 tackles, so he’s an automatic selection for mine. Thought it was madness he didn’t start against Sydney and last night he showed why he should have.

I think Owies stays because he always manages to pop up with his goal or two. I would probably drop Fogarty, his kicking is just so ordinary and he doesn’t hurt the opposition when he gets the ball. At least Cunners can impact the game IF he manages to get his hands on the ball. But I suspect they’ll drop Cuningham. Cottrell is safe due to his running power and his game vs Sydney.

Outside that I can’t see us making any more changes. Could be tempting to drop a tall defender for another small given Brisbane’s plethora of dangerous small forwards. Kemp, Gov, and Cincotta were way too loose at times last night and struggled on the smaller more nimble types. I hate the thought of one of them on Charlie Cameron, Raynor, Bailey, McCarthy, Ah Chee. They really do have an embarrassment of riches in their small-medium forward stocks. That’s the biggest threat in this game IMO.

Kemp needs to learn when to punch and when to mark. Again last night he got out marked trying to pluck one from behind in D50. He also left his man and got stuck in no man’s land a few times. Needs to balance his offensive and defensive mindset and be a bit more accountable.

I still don’t think Pitto is in our best 22 once Harry is back and would rather JSOS, but can understand not wanting to bring in a player into a prelim who hasn’t played for 2 months. Pitto is a pretty limited footballer and does some really dumb things. He knocked it straight down the throat of Melbourne players too much last night, a couple of times completely uncontested too.

The sub has to be a runner. Hollands did well last night giving us that extra run when everyone was spent and giving us an extra number at the contest. I would still lean towards Dow as I think he can win the ball at the source late in the game. He’s had a huge impact coming on as a sub this season.


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Can't see Pitto being dropped, I thought he went okay. If he wasn't in the ruck in the last minute we could well have lost, beat Gawn in 2 ruck contests.

This is huge. Prelim Final.

No favourite in this kind of game for me despite backing a lions to win the flag in the preseason.

I’ve got game sorted, flights sorted, accomodation sorted.

I cannot believe the Navy Blue Army
Heaps of Carltonians booked the best accomodation last week; yes, before the Dees win.

Good luck finding reasonable, let alone good accomodation.

Brisbane can’t handle the Navy Blue Army. Fancy playing a Final in a country town. 60000 Carlton fans will miss out on tickets.

The MCG is the best Arena in the world to showcase a Prelim Final. It’s a neutral ground and available to play a Prelim.

Have a good feeling about this game. I still have faith in this list.

if we use the same style game plan as previous finale we are GONE ( very very lucky dees game). WE need show more run and carry and can we have 1 forward that leads to ball carrier.

Land of the Giants, huh? fair point about SoS but I'd be seriously worried about the lack of run in that side. Reckon I'd have to drop Pitto, as much as he played Gawn to perfection, maybe we can get away with not bullying OMac, whom I rate. Either that or drop a tall defender for Fisher or Hollands (Doc to HB). Or both!

Yeah I was thinking the same. Horses for courses. Boyd is probably our best lock down small defender and offers some rebound as well. I thought Cincotta was badly exposed against Pickett too. Easily could have finished with 5 goals. We also have Raynor, Bailey, McCarthy to deal with. Cincotta is probably better suited to Raynor or Bailey than Cameron


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Sorry but playing a prelim at G when we finished 5th and they finished 2nd would be ludicrous. They've earnt the right to a home prelim.

Plus it will make our story so much better. Bottom 4 at round 15, then 15th to 5th on a 9 game winning streak. First finals win in a decade against Sydney. Back up to beat many people's flag favourite in Melbourne at the G. Then have to travel to the Gabba for the toughest assignment in footy. Then back to the G to beat the filth in the first Carlton Collingwood Grand Final in nearly half a century.

Playing Brisbane at the G would be cheating us of our full glory.

Did you go to the game jake?

Cincotta blanketed Pickett in the first half.
I don't think Pickett got free because of Cincotta's weakness.

Dees opened up the game and went wider after the first half. Tried to open us up.
Pickett was having shots from stupid spots and was part of the reason they lost the game.

No way Pickett could have "easily" kicked 5. He had 8 kicks. Behinds are not difficult to kick. Selfish, and Dees fans know it.

Yeah I get the reasoning for the Gabba, but my point shouldnt be viewed as ludicrous, if you see read my reasoning.

Its about the neutrality and availability of the best arena in the country enabling an extra 60,000 fans to witness it live. That's all.

I'm lucky enough to get tickets for Lions game from AFL Corporate contacts. Do you think its the every day supporters who go every week to Lions games and Blues games who will be attending this game? 38,000 tickets...10,000 corporate tickets leaves 28,000 for teams who have combined 150,000 members. Most will miss the opportunity. I feel for them. That's all.