Fogarty has done some great work as an extra mid

Was crucial in the last quarter last week.

Does so much that goes unnoticed

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Bam Bam is my man, but I agree, Fog ain't going anywhere at the moment.

Kennedy may need to bide his time, like Hewett did.

And in some sense, I think that's a good thing for them, because these boys take an absolute beating. Having a spell in the 2's from time to time could potentially prolong their careers.

His midfield work & impact around the stoppages has been as good as you could ask for.

I think the side we’re all looking for is one where he & Owies are one guy… which is why they could both be left out when Walsh & McKay are up & going.

I think Cuningham’s polish & Motlop’s arsiness give them the edge for now, but they’re both interchangeable with the other two.

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McKay is the conundrum. Walsh comes into midfield and Docherty moves back to the wing. Cerra replaces Dow and Kennedy comes in as sub. They're logical moves that don't change the balance of the team.
McKay is the one who replaces a small/mid sized forward or ruck. It's just which one. I don't like Cottrell going out as he currently plays a key role as the rotation wingman.
The other decision is Docherty or Hollands on the wing. Personally, I think Docherty gets the nod. Just.
The others are like for like so it doesn't impact a lot. Boyd for Fisher? McGovern for Marchbank?

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Harry needs to learn to ruck

Dow should be sub - he adds something to Centre bounce attendances in last quarters.

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Agree on Fog, a true engine room player flying under the radar for weeks now. Very important to or ability to lock the ball in our forward half. Stands up when he has to, over and over.

Cannot agree about Owies losing a spot to Motlop or Cunners. Owies is becoming a really good lead up mark-and-goal player and can tackle and run round the ground a bit. For some reason I keep thinking he’s like this teams Matt Clape who was our #4 goal kicker in 1995 and did so much to allow other our key forwards to shine. Owies isn’t quite there yet but I see the potential as he’s improving each game he plays. Motlop and Cunners both exciting when they get moments. Motlop seems to drift out of the game for long periods still, might be role thing I can see on replays.

You just have to be honest about who Voss prefers to select instead of favouring personal faves. Another question is How and why did some of the depth players get their opportunity?

Motlop and Durdin are young developing players and were waning and were rightly dropped to make way for Fogarty who was a tackling machine in the VFL and Cuningham. We needed to up our defensive side in the forwardline. Fogarty is limited, and also fell by the wayside in the past because he also lost form and couldnt kick 35 metres. Hewas selcted because he wins the hardball and tackles hard.

Fog's been great for tackling an pressure, so has Cuningham if you look at his numbers, and Martin, and Owies are tough cookies. Owies is a Voss fave if you haven't noticed.

IMO Fog, like Dow, will be displaced when injured players come back. Motlop has resurrected his spot after being dropped and remember he was a last minute call up to replace Owies, who had a tight calf. He wasn't great against Dees. They are kids, they have their ups and downs. Finals is for keeps.

I'm thinking Plowman Fogarty and trade Fisher is the best scenario for us.
Then have another look at Marchbank, Dow, Honey and Philp in 2024, and next year, we cull another 3 players, and they may include those who I just named, because all the others are young, developing, or have become Finals stars or Premiership players.

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As does Kennedy. I like Dow but Kennedy uses the ball better and makes better decisions.
Plus he can play other roles if we get an early injury.

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Different players.

I love Kennedy as a sub when he comes into the midfield group and smashes into players who are tiring whilst he's running on high energy. He also takes marks; good marks. Is a great long set shot too.

Kennedy for me in Finals.

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Agree with all that BB.
Great post.

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Bam Bam make pee pee go woo woo!

No contest.

I don’t think we can fit Cripps Hewett & Kennedy in the same side. Too much of the same. Individually very good but we look better with only two of them supported by Walsh Docherty Cerra Fogarty & Cuningham. Great mix

I like the idea of Dow then as sub. Adds some burst later in the game when needed

The good thing is that now the match committee has seen all of them at their best with Hewett & Dow showing some good form of late, as well as Fogarty, Cottrell and Cunningham.
I'm happy that they will now be making much more informed selections based on capability and the plan they have in mind.
Remember, we have been doing work-arounds since the Port game. By next week, we should be able to play our A Game.

PS. I'm not worried about McKay upsetting the balance when he comes in. My preference is probably that he replaces Pitto so we maintain the mospquito fleet in our forward line. However, if he replaces one of the smalls it is ok. McKay is deceptively fast and a tackling machine too.

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100%. If not we’re left with a forward line of Charlie, Harry and one of TDK/Pitto. That is WAY too top heavy. We would lose our manic pressure that has been the catalyst of our improved form. Pitto offers absolutely zilch as a forward target and virtually zero forward pressure. He’s a liability outside the ruck contest. So the only other alternative is to rest one of the ruckman on the bench, but then you’re essentially losing a runner and playing one rotation short. It just doesn’t work.

Fun fact - in our 8 game winning streak, not once have Charlie, Harry, TDK, and Pitto all played in the same team. Pitto only came in when Harry went out.


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I love Kennedy but he is not consistant. He is sometimes really dynamic and other times goes missing.

I would love him to always be dynamic as we are a better team with him in it.

But he shouldnt be a walk up starter. He should be made to be hungry for his place again.

Dropping Dow to Sub again, is really a smack in the face to him and unfair.

And i have been very critical of Dow, but he has been very good over last few weeks.

Its very tough. No one deserves to make way at the moment. I can only think of Ed and thats all. Fisher borderline, would prefer Boyd but even he has been good.

I dont subscribe to the theory that Cripps Hewett and Kennedy can't play in the same team.

When that theory came to light, Hewett was carrying and playing with an injury, we started losing, and it seems to have stuck, forgetting that the 3 played together in our first 2 weeks and Kennedy was out injured in the 2nd 2 weeks of our undefeated streak. You can read what you like from that, but people seems to have conveniently forgotten that they have had success together.

Because of injury to Kennedy he was in and out of the team. Hewett was dropped for a game and blitzed the VFL. But he came back the next week, and the 3 mids played together in wins over Hawks and Freo then Kennedy got injured again.

We were playing a different game style with lots of disruptions, tweaks and some strange calls like playing Kennedy and Cerra at HB when the mids were getting beaten.

Our game has changed a lot since the 3 played together at the start of the season and since our 6 game losing streak. Big time. We have killed it in the contest with just Cripps and Hewett as the battering bulls. The contest is something Kennedy could add more of and thrive, to leave Cerra and Walsh moreso on the outside of the contest or when Hewett or Cripps need a chop out.

The new method and commitment we are playing with over 8 weeks, has swept through the whole club. It hasn't mattered that 6 Best 22 players were missing. No one can afford to be the weakest link, and that includes Cripps Hewett and Kennedy. Cerra and Walsh provide plenty of burst if Dow doesnt play or is sub. The No 1 rule is to commit and win the contest. The rest will look after itself.

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I think Dow expects to make way for Cerra and Walsh. I don't think it will a surprise to him, nor be a slap in the face.

Kennedy has been out for a long time and I'm sure will need to find form before being the one to push Dow out completely.

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