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Is that right that Alex Cincotta has been added ?


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Alex. That's a pretty Carltonish name :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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jezzarules wrote:
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Is that right that Alex Cincotta has been added ?



Thanks Jezz . Good luck to him and welcome to our great Club . Love these rags to rich's stories myself . Doin ' it the hard way . Bein ' rewarded for hard work and dedication . Gonna do us proud .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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He's gonna "give it 110% every day".

He "is ready to go to war with [his] team mates".

He "knows what they've been building towarrds" and he's said "I'm in".

Have to put it out there, but watching this kid up close only a couple times, but saw all his games on the box, and he reminds me of Heath Scotland: the way he runs, the way he kicks on his left and right. The way he handballs leaning forward

He could get himself noticed in the next 5 weeks .
He's the unknown mature player whose been right under our nose.

In Austin I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Mickstar wrote:
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He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .


Mulcair was before my time, but I think I can see what you mean from the clips on Blueseum. Looks like he was a ‘straight ahead’ type defender - https://www.blueseum.org/Barry+Mulcair

I don’t see the Scotland comparison personally. I don’t think they play the same way. And, frankly, Scotland had a lot more natural ability. Cincotta will have to fight and scrap for every game.

If I were to compare AC to a player from the past decade I’d be more inclined to say Jaryd Cachia - https://youtu.be/BRCRwRdUsTY

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .


haha Mulcair. You're a living Legend Mickstar..

Hardly remember him TBH. But I see the semblance.

Perception is reality.

There's just little things that trigger little memories, snapshots, you may call them.

One thing we all agree on, they all look better in Dark Navy Blue.
So we expect a lot for the privelege.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .


haha Mulcair. You're a living Legend Mickstar..

Hardly remember him TBH. But I see the semblance.

Perception is reality.

There's just little things that trigger little memories, snapshots, you may call them.

One thing we all agree on, they all look better in Dark Navy Blue.
So we expect a lot for the privelege.


Well , Barry Mulcair was virtually five minutes in the joint , got himself a Flag and disappeared the next year as quick as he came . Half Back Flanker just like Cincotta who ran in a straight line . Never deviated . Bendigo boy .

PS...............and that is not an exaggeration saying they all look better in the old dark navy blue coz they do .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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bondiblue wrote:
He's gonna "give it 110% every day".

He "is ready to go to war with [his] team mates".

He "knows what they've been building towarrds" and he's said "I'm in".

Have to put it out there, but watching this kid up close only a couple times, but saw all his games on the box, and he reminds me of Heath Scotland: the way he runs, the way he kicks on his left and right. The way he handballs leaning forward

He could get himself noticed in the next 5 weeks .
He's the unknown mature player whose been right under our nose.

In Austin I believe.


Was impressive at VFL level last year. Nice kick off both sides. Now can he step up? Only time will tell, but he is tough bugger and won't die wondering. I love these types


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Sounds like an Italian dessert


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Paddycripps wrote:
Sounds like an Italian dessert


A ricotta pastry dipped in Cinzano

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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I think our list management has, to some degree, been on rails in the immediate aftermath of the review.

I can’t see that changing this year, at least not at the top end.

33 contracts to review this year (21) and next (12). McGovern, Docherty & Martin aside, they’re all at or below the league average.

Young, Sam Durdin, McGovern, Plowman, Marchbank, Kemp, Akuei, Docherty, Newman & now Cincotta.

Whatever flexibility existed within this group, it has now got to carry the burden for insurance against $800k worth of Williams. Unless the average salary comes down to $225-250k, there’s going to be some churn.

Durdin is rookie-eligible, so that’s a bonus. If he wants more than that, he’ll have look elsewhere.
Young is a $400-500k piece in our set up, but we’d have to back end a 2028 contract to get him near that.
Doc’s contract will be a difficult conversation. He’d be an $800k player anywhere else… Cook’s experience at the #lifestyle clubs has never been more important than it will be here. The AFL are desperate to kick us again.
Newman seems like the type of guy that would be happy with a 1yr $200k deal. There might even be a Podsiadly angle via the women’s team if he’s interested.

McGovern, Plowman, Marchbank, Kemp, Akuei, Cincotta…
I don’t think Akuei survives without the Cat B allowance, but there’s no savings to be made there.
Cincotta might turn out to be sufficient insurance for Williams, but he’s got to take someone’s spot on the list. It might be Akuei.
McGovern is definitely getting a haircut, but he’s going to command something closer to $400k than $200k.
The writing is on the wall for Plowman & Marchbank - and if Kemp doesn’t make a serious case as a genuine utility, we might find that three becomes one.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Further to the previous post, expiring contracts in the midfield group present even fewer opportunities to add to the middle-top end of the list.

Dow, Curnow, Cuningham, Fogarty, Honey, Philp… there’s a possibility that none of them will be with us next season. That’s what it’ll take to get a mid-level player from another club.

The following year won’t help either. Any savings made by cutting bait with Martin will be swallowed up by the recent draftees.

If #17 is coming in the next couple of years, those 23 soldiers are already on the list. We’ve got what we’ve got and the Development team are going to have to produce.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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Paddycripps wrote:
Sounds like an Italian dessert


A ricotta pastry dipped in Cinzano





Nice….

with a dash of Campari…!

we need a Sam Pellegrino on the list whilst we’re
at it…and a Don Chinotto too…!

we really need a couple of Angelo-Saxons actually…like a
Shane Papadopoulos…or a Spiro Smith…they go pretty
good…!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2023
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tommi wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Sounds like an Italian dessert


A ricotta pastry dipped in Cinzano





Nice….

with a dash of Campari…!

we need a Sam Pellegrino on the list whilst we’re
at it…and a Don Chinotto too…!

we really need a couple of Angelo-Saxons actually…like a
Shane Papadopoulos…or a Spiro Smith…they go pretty
good…!


kindest regards tommi


Sorta like a Spiro Agnew who just happened to be a VP of the USA few years back .

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Exactly sorta Micksta…!


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Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .

Barry Mulcair No35 from South Bendigo. Maybe paved the way for another No 35 from South Bendigo,
Peter Dean........That worked out alright ! :wink:

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Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .


Yep - definitely got me. I was 5 in his debut year. :lol:


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murraycray wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Very happy with such promotions. It’s how it should be for players performing in our VFL team and being fully invested. Well done CFC = culture building.

Ps. He does remind me a little of Scotland.


I"ll test your memories Suzz and Bondi . I reckon he has a Barry Mulcair vibe about him myself .

Barry Mulcair No35 from South Bendigo. Maybe paved the way for another No 35 from South Bendigo,
Peter Dean........That worked out alright ! :wink:


Peter Dean . You talk about Carlton greats and Peter Dean was right up there for mine . The sort of player who gave you 100 % for 100 % of the time . Never beaten was Peter . If you were in the trenches you would like Peter to be beside you . Highly underrated .

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