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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:15 am 
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Were people happy with the INs for this round then?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:29 am 
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Having read the posts and after 5 rounds it’s becoming clear that Freo are one of the better teams.
As Darcy improves after being injured and a late start their clearence numbers will get better.

It’s obvious that if a team gains an advantage against us in this area we are in a lot of trouble because we don’t work hard enough to reduce space for teams to not slice us up.
Pittonet dominated yesterday. If Lycett had been available it would have been a different result.
Posters once again arn’t looking at the obvious.
Once Port got the clearance dominance we had no answer.
Our percentage is 102 mathematically amazing for a 4-1 win /loss ratio.

Voss needs to address this area pronto.
It was a massive problem last year.

We are still an average team


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:42 am 
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so we know we have improved
we also know we have a lot more to work on
we are moving from bottom upwards - no longer do i feel as if we are simply treading water
yes there is a lot of scars from the past
and a lot of areas to work on
and for the first time in a long time I think the club is in a position to work on all those areas
so I'll be patient and try like @#$%&!
not to have a heart attack!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:04 am 
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As I said this is really the clubs first big test on Saturday.
Pearce and Cox will be tougher opponents for McKay and Curnow.
The other players will most likely have to pick up the slack


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:31 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Were people happy with the INs for this round then?


I'm in the minority. I don't mind Cotters. LOB would not have taken that 1 on 1 mark late in the game


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:49 am 
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Blues21 wrote:
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Our best football is what is getting us the leads, or worst football is what's making the margins so close ..



Our best seems to be coming from centre square ball ups. I think we've really benefited from the 6-6-6 rule, plus Pitto's work with the mids.

Still got plenty to work on around the ground in general play though


Hence the lunacy of playing just 1 ruck. Silvagni isn't working. We lost momentum when he went into ruck. Against GCS the same.


I disagree, Pittonet didn’t ruck all the first half and Silvagni didn’t ruck all the second half.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:49 am 
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Port switched at every opportunity. We are very poor defensively between the arc's and the other teams know it. If you take away our first half clearances then the rest of our game is pretty ordinary.


This was prevalent in the Hawthorn game as well, and both times we failed to work it out. Too often they would switch then cut back through a gaping corridor. Rather than our players en masse chasing tail, maybe some could anchor themselves a little more firmly on the corridor side of the wave, so to speak. A little awareness wouldn't go astray occasionally.

This can be a starting point for a plan B, Vossie.

No, that's all you're getting. Aren't you lucky?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:52 am 
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keogh wrote:
Having read the posts and after 5 rounds it’s becoming clear that Freo are one of the better teams.
As Darcy improves after being injured and a late start their clearence numbers will get better.

It’s obvious that if a team gains an advantage against us in this area we are in a lot of trouble because we don’t work hard enough to reduce space for teams to not slice us up.
Pittonet dominated yesterday. If Lycett had been available it would have been a different result.
Posters once again arn’t looking at the obvious.
Once Port got the clearance dominance we had no answer.
Our percentage is 102 mathematically amazing for a 4-1 win /loss ratio.

Voss needs to address this area pronto.
It was a massive problem last year.

We are still an average team


Wrong again keogh, we have improved massively to be an average team.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:29 am 
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I reckon we've improved massively when we have the ball. But just like under Teague there's still a big gap between our ability with the ball & without.

Like dannyboy though I can see we are improving & that this is most likely just one phase on a bigger journey.

I reckon we're at a stage now where getting a big win is starting to be a bit of a monkey on our backs, & we have to get that win to start getting taken seriously. There are multiple opportunities for that in the next month or so.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am 
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Just watching the replay. We were all over Port for the first half of the 3rd quarter. Absolutely dominant. Difference to the first 2 quarters was we couldn't score. That was where it started to break down. Our forward entries were poor, but Port flooded back to stop the big boys. Then it Seychelles. Port kicked a couple of tall good goals. Most telling though was the repeat entries. Our Achilles heal showed through again in our inability to get it past half back from the kick in. Old habits die hard. When the heat came, we reverted back to our old ways. Kick long to a pack repeatedly. Problem was Port were sweating on it. Knew that's what was coming. They spoiled forward where players were waiting for it and in they went again until eventually they got the goal.

From there the momentum completely swung. We went into our shell and instead of moving to make space for ourselves, started only worrying about our opponent to the point where we forgot to attack. We forgot to run. In essence we just shit ourselves. The demons of the past haven't been exorcised yet. The belief is better, but hasn't got to the point where the 5 goal runs can be stopped yet. The players like the supporters when a team comes just think, here we go again, this always happens and no one is strong enough to say not today.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:57 am 
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Just watching the replay. We were all over Port for the first half of the 3rd quarter. Absolutely dominant. Difference to the first 2 quarters was we couldn't score.

Agree. We could have easily killed the game in the first half of the third qtr but didn't take our chances.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:59 am 
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We also lairised a bit in the first qtr to me, & could have been a couple more goals up at quarter time.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:03 am 
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The_Cranium wrote:
Just watching the replay. We were all over Port for the first half of the 3rd quarter. Absolutely dominant. Difference to the first 2 quarters was we couldn't score. That was where it started to break down. Our forward entries were poor, but Port flooded back to stop the big boys. Then it Seychelles. Port kicked a couple of tall good goals. Most telling though was the repeat entries. Our Achilles heal showed through again in our inability to get it past half back from the kick in. Old habits die hard. When the heat came, we reverted back to our old ways. Kick long to a pack repeatedly. Problem was Port were sweating on it. Knew that's what was coming. They spoiled forward where players were waiting for it and in they went again until eventually they got the goal.

From there the momentum completely swung. We went into our shell and instead of moving to make space for ourselves, started only worrying about our opponent to the point where we forgot to attack. We forgot to run. In essence we just shit ourselves. The demons of the past haven't been exorcised yet. The belief is better, but hasn't got to the point where the 5 goal runs can be stopped yet. The players like the supporters when a team comes just think, here we go again, this always happens and no one is strong enough to say not today.



That's a good summary...but do we also need to give Kenny Hinkley a bit of credit. It looked like he re-jigged his midfield after half time & got what he wanted out of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:08 am 
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CK95 wrote:
The_Cranium wrote:
Just watching the replay. We were all over Port for the first half of the 3rd quarter. Absolutely dominant. Difference to the first 2 quarters was we couldn't score. That was where it started to break down. Our forward entries were poor, but Port flooded back to stop the big boys. Then it Seychelles. Port kicked a couple of tall good goals. Most telling though was the repeat entries. Our Achilles heal showed through again in our inability to get it past half back from the kick in. Old habits die hard. When the heat came, we reverted back to our old ways. Kick long to a pack repeatedly. Problem was Port were sweating on it. Knew that's what was coming. They spoiled forward where players were waiting for it and in they went again until eventually they got the goal.

From there the momentum completely swung. We went into our shell and instead of moving to make space for ourselves, started only worrying about our opponent to the point where we forgot to attack. We forgot to run. In essence we just shit ourselves. The demons of the past haven't been exorcised yet. The belief is better, but hasn't got to the point where the 5 goal runs can be stopped yet. The players like the supporters when a team comes just think, here we go again, this always happens and no one is strong enough to say not today.



That's a good summary...but do we also need to give Kenny Hinkley a bit of credit. It looked like he re-jigged his midfield after half time & got what he wanted out of them.


He did re-jig, but it didn't do a lot until the second half of the third. What he did do was push players back into D50 which stopped our scoring. That's where it really turned. We were still fairly dominant at centre bounce, though they did start to break even a little.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:18 am 
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Good post The Cranium.
Thought we blew so many good chances when we were on top and when we were under the pump.
Agree with Caz, the ruck frees against Pitto are bewildering.
Curnow’s presence around the ball in the dying minutes was important I thought. He didn’t do much but showed leadership and Port players would have been aware he was there.
The only enjoyment of the second half was listening to Russell having to commentate Port not winning.
And Robbie Grey actually missed against us.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:43 am 
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We have one primary way of scoring and, good lord, if we get on top of the opposition, do we GET ON TOP.

Unfortunately, if that doesn't work, we struggle to generate much. This means we're one-dimensional and, if your team can do it, we're stoppable. Luckily, we've been so far ahead each week that it takes everything the opposition has to catch up, and they haven't been able to pip us.

Interesting that this week we got goals out of the forwards and nothing from the midfield. We'd improved our ability to score from midfield so far this season. Cripps missing played a big part in this.

We definitely need to spend the week working on alternative strategies for clearing the ball from defence, outside of 'bomb it long'.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:51 am 
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keogh wrote:
Having read the posts and after 5 rounds it’s becoming clear that Freo are one of the better teams.
As Darcy improves after being injured and a late start their clearence numbers will get better.

It’s obvious that if a team gains an advantage against us in this area we are in a lot of trouble because we don’t work hard enough to reduce space for teams to not slice us up.
Pittonet dominated yesterday. If Lycett had been available it would have been a different result.
Posters once again arn’t looking at the obvious.
Once Port got the clearance dominance we had no answer.
Our percentage is 102 mathematically amazing for a 4-1 win /loss ratio.

Voss needs to address this area pronto.
It was a massive problem last year.

We are still an average team


Have a look at the ladder. We are actually above average.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:52 am 
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Good post The Cranium.
Thought we blew so many good chances when we were on top and when we were under the pump.
Agree with Caz, the ruck frees against Pitto are bewildering.
Curnow’s presence around the ball in the dying minutes was important I thought. He didn’t do much but showed leadership and Port players would have been aware he was there.
The only enjoyment of the second half was listening to Russell having to commentate Port not winning.
And Robbie Grey actually missed against us.


Setterfield will never have a gimmeike that. Terrible miss. And then he showed his lack of awareness.


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