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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:19 am 
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Nankervis will beat Pitto easily but I can't see them going into the Richmond game without him. TDK has to play.

Just thinking outside the box ... any chance TDK could be turned into a CHB?


Gawn beat Pitto yet our mids did ok. I am not worried about Nankervis, he’s not even half the footballer Gawn is.


I think Pittonet is an underrrated player and has lots of upside yet. I really like the combination of Pittonet & TDK. Different players and TDK can be a dangerous forward as well. Both still inexperienced

As the year progresses I see a very good ruck combo


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:25 am 
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I’d rather have an underdone Stocker than either of Boyd or Williamson.

Docherty would be a pleasant surprise, though he’d want to defend better than he did last season.


How good is it to see Docherty up and running. Can't wait to see him back but I feel we will be patient with him

Can't wait to see Docherty Walsh Stocker Carroll Motlop Kemp Mirkov Dow Philp all pushing for a spot. Exciting times


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:44 am 
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My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:38 pm 
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I reckon you might be right with Motlop. He looks too good for the ressies - like a bizarro Eddie.

Whereas Eddie had a full bag of tricks & needed to learn how to stay involved, Motts is right there but maybe one or two clubs short of being an ever-present threat to score.

I don’t think he develops those tools in the VFL, because he’s a better player. If he spends too much time at that level, he might lose that scorer’s mentality in favour of a higher disposal rate.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:32 pm 
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Anyone else hear Andy Maher on SEN an hour ago?

A little birdie told him Sam Walsh is back at FULL Training tomorrow.

Just over 4 weeks ago Sam Walsh said he was aiming to be ready for round 1.

If Sam Walsh and Docherty can rise from the dead we are going to give the Tigers a Samashing!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:00 pm 
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Anyone else hear Andy Maher on SEN an hour ago?

A little birdie told him Sam Walsh is back at FULL Training tomorrow.

Just over 4 weeks ago Sam Walsh said he was aiming to be ready for round 1.

If Sam Walsh and Docherty can rise from the dead we are going to give the Tigers a Samashing!!!


Walsh was at game last week walking around with no issues at all


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:24 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
I reckon you might be right with Motlop. He looks too good for the ressies - like a bizarro Eddie.

Whereas Eddie had a full bag of tricks & needed to learn how to stay involved, Motts is right there but maybe one or two clubs short of being an ever-present threat to score.

I don’t think he develops those tools in the VFL, because he’s a better player. If he spends too much time at that level, he might lose that scorer’s mentality in favour of a higher disposal rate.


At least the VFL is only a week behind the main comp in starting this year (even if they somehow manage to get 4 byes into the draw). I get the argument that some players are too naturally talented to kick it around in a howling gale or inches deep mud at Preston or Casey or wherever, but for me this kid would have to be pretty special to take a spot over Honey or Owies or Durdin, all of whom bring solid performances (particularly defensive) to the table. I'd like to see him do some sick shit in the VFL, but more importantly demonstrate that workrate and desire for the contest that it looks like we are going to be demanding from our small forwards this year.

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Heavs wrote:
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I reckon you might be right with Motlop. He looks too good for the ressies - like a bizarro Eddie.

Whereas Eddie had a full bag of tricks & needed to learn how to stay involved, Motts is right there but maybe one or two clubs short of being an ever-present threat to score.

I don’t think he develops those tools in the VFL, because he’s a better player. If he spends too much time at that level, he might lose that scorer’s mentality in favour of a higher disposal rate.


At least the VFL is only a week behind the main comp in starting this year (even if they somehow manage to get 4 byes into the draw). I get the argument that some players are too naturally talented to kick it around in a howling gale or inches deep mud at Preston or Casey or wherever, but for me this kid would have to be pretty special to take a spot over Honey or Owies or Durdin, all of whom bring solid performances (particularly defensive) to the table. I'd like to see him do some sick shit in the VFL, but more importantly demonstrate that workrate and desire for the contest that it looks like we are going to be demanding from our small forwards this year.

Yep.
Doubt anyone who didn't play either preseason game is in line for round one.
Doubt they'd even risk Walsh if he declares himself fit.
Doc needs at least another run.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:16 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


You lost me when you left JSoS out of the 22 and added...well Newnes. :banghead:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:43 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Anyone else hear Andy Maher on SEN an hour ago?

A little birdie told him Sam Walsh is back at FULL Training tomorrow.

Just over 4 weeks ago Sam Walsh said he was aiming to be ready for round 1.

If Sam Walsh and Docherty can rise from the dead we are going to give the Tigers a Samashing!!!


I heard that too BB……..my pulse went up a notch


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:45 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


You lost me when you left JSoS out of the 22 and added...well Newnes. :banghead:


And Newman


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:31 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Anyone else hear Andy Maher on SEN an hour ago?

A little birdie told him Sam Walsh is back at FULL Training tomorrow.

Just over 4 weeks ago Sam Walsh said he was aiming to be ready for round 1.

If Sam Walsh and Docherty can rise from the dead we are going to give the Tigers a Samashing!!!



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:40 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


You lost me when you left JSoS out of the 22 and added...well Newnes. :banghead:


as I said based on Voss comments. We will either go with TDK or Jack as second ruck. I can't see both when we have Charlie as other tall.

As for Newnes it was between him & Williamson. I reckon Kemp is underdone and Martin is out of form. If Walsh plays then he replaces Newnes. The wildcard is Docherty

Nice to have options


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:06 pm 
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McGovern - McDonald - Newman
Saad - Weitering - Williams
Cerra - Cripps - O'Brien
Martin - C. Curnow - Fisher
Owies - McKay - Durdin
Pittonet - Hewett - Kennedy

Silvagni - DeKoning - E. Curnow - Kemp

Motlop to play if Durdin doesn't come up.
I don't really rate Newman, but they talk about his leadership in the backline.
Docherty and Walsh to come into the side within two rounds, but... I can see Docherty possibly being named the sub.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:13 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


You lost me when you left JSoS out of the 22 and added...well Newnes. :banghead:


as I said based on Voss comments. We will either go with TDK or Jack as second ruck. I can't see both when we have Charlie as other tall.

As for Newnes it was between him & Williamson. I reckon Kemp is underdone and Martin is out of form. If Walsh plays then he replaces Newnes. The wildcard is Docherty

Nice to have options

You might be right about it being a choice between SOJ and TDK if Charlie plays. It could depend on the conditions, but I’m starting to think it’s unlikely that all 3 will be in the 22.

I agree with you about Martin, but I think he will be selected ahead of Motlop for round one.

And yep - Doc gets the last spot in the 22 if he’s ready, but I suspect he ain’t. Then I guess it becomes a choice between Newnes, Dow, Williamson, Boyd, Fogarty, Cottrell or Philip for the last spot (I haven’t considered Walsh, E.Curnow, Carroll, Kemp or Stocker because I assume they won’t be quite ready for round one).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:02 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
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I reckon you might be right with Motlop. He looks too good for the ressies - like a bizarro Eddie.

Whereas Eddie had a full bag of tricks & needed to learn how to stay involved, Motts is right there but maybe one or two clubs short of being an ever-present threat to score.

I don’t think he develops those tools in the VFL, because he’s a better player. If he spends too much time at that level, he might lose that scorer’s mentality in favour of a higher disposal rate.


At least the VFL is only a week behind the main comp in starting this year (even if they somehow manage to get 4 byes into the draw). I get the argument that some players are too naturally talented to kick it around in a howling gale or inches deep mud at Preston or Casey or wherever, but for me this kid would have to be pretty special to take a spot over Honey or Owies or Durdin, all of whom bring solid performances (particularly defensive) to the table. I'd like to see him do some sick shit in the VFL, but more importantly demonstrate that workrate and desire for the contest that it looks like we are going to be demanding from our small forwards this year.



Right on Heavs.

The way Durdin and Owies hit opponents and look for collision is what I would have described as a Voss style of playing for every player when its their turn, but especially so with small forwards.

Needs runs on the board in the twos. I've seen classy stuff from him in his highlights reel but nothing that tells me he has the physical attributes Durdin Owies and Honey bring to the table.

Letting Motlop learn his trade in the twos is a great way to condition the kid for the big league.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:10 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


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Up until last week's game I would have Newman a fair way behind other defenders, but he did himself a huge favour the way he played last week.

I hope Docherty is selected coz he looks ready and has been pretty good in the intra club games too.

Kemp also has had a good preseason and missed last week because of a slight injury. I'd have him ahead of Newman, but I'm bias.

The 2 abovementioned have had better preseason, imo, than Plowman, and I haven't heard Voss suggest he's a possibility. Same goes with Newnes. He was taken off the ground at half time vs Saints.

I'm not a big fan of Setterfield, but he's played the most minutes on a wing, so I can see why he's in.

Martin played well last week imo ... not amazingly well, but he ran hard, helped defence and played hard nosed footy. Can't see him missing out, but hey, its all opinion based.

Good to have options.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:13 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
My take on pre season and what Voss has said.

B: McGovern McDonald Saad
HB: Williams Weitering Newman
C: Cerra Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: Owies TDK Charlie
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Hewett
Int: Setterfield Plowman Motlop Newnes (Silvagni)

Docherty Walsh Stocker Honey Marchbank Cunningham not considered. All could be best 22?
Kemp Martin Boyd & Williamson unlucky
McDonald pips Young on form
Carroll not far away
I think Voss will pick Motlop. Been impressive and we need that manic pressure and speed he provides. Just a gut feel

Blues by 17 points


You lost me when you left JSoS out of the 22 and added...well Newnes. :banghead:


as I said based on Voss comments. We will either go with TDK or Jack as second ruck. I can't see both when we have Charlie as other tall.

As for Newnes it was between him & Williamson. I reckon Kemp is underdone and Martin is out of form. If Walsh plays then he replaces Newnes. The wildcard is Docherty

Nice to have options

You might be right about it being a choice between SOJ and TDK if Charlie plays. It could depend on the conditions, but I’m starting to think it’s unlikely that all 3 will be in the 22.

I agree with you about Martin, but I think he will be selected ahead of Motlop for round one.

And yep - Doc gets the last spot in the 22 if he’s ready, but I suspect he ain’t. Then I guess it becomes a choice between Newnes, Dow, Williamson, Boyd, Fogarty, Cottrell or Philip for the last spot (I haven’t considered Walsh, E.Curnow, Carroll, Kemp or Stocker because I assume they won’t be quite ready for round one).


Voss and Russell have reported Kemp is ready for round 1. Similar size to Plowman. Both could be considered as Utilities.

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Anyhow , nice change actually arguing about who we are gonna leave out . Jeez , we are a funny lot here on TC .

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