I didn't, my mum's not happy...

Bottom 3.
So disappointing.
No game plan apparent. It's like school kids chasing the big boys.

Where the team that never lets you down.... I switched off 10 min into the second quarter, already could see the writing on the wall.....I honestly dont know where we go from here.
Probably start blooding the kids....Give them some games. Cant hurt any more than we are hurting already?

To all those who think this is just a once off thing ask yourself a couple of questions
When was the last time this team played a four quarter game?
When was the last time this team had consistent and reliable forwards or any system of getting it forward?
When was the last time we didn't chip the ball around until we regularly turned it over?
When was the last time we consistently manned up (may have to go back a long time for that one)?
I am not throwing in the towel yet but in all honesty I cannot see how we are going to win any more than the pathetic 7 games that we won last year. Year after year I as a member amongst many others give their undying support and they keep doing the same things wrong in terms of drafting and playing? Yes many players on the list are young and need more experience and yes most of the ones that we got rid of deserved to go, but how many rebuilds is it going to take? When I followed Carlton growing up I knew that they stood for something and that they had pride in the club and the jumper. For many years now I have struggled to believe that of any of the teams that we have had since 2001. Garbage performances like what they put on tonight should not be tolerated, nor should apathetic displays where they refuse to play the entire game. The fans deserve better than that and the club deserves better.

..I say we lacked consistency during ratten years too.. ..he may have tried to build the list a certain way, I reckon mm is too.. ..but neither list follows instruction all game long, for either coach..

..the same basic team mistakes.. ..lack of two way running, red time goals conceded, poor in game decisions.. ..these are All player driven..

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Full forward? If only...

For all the criticism that he gets around here, casboult took 8 marks (5 contested) and had 5 shots on goal. As a part time forward... who probably spends more time rucking around the ground rather than being camped in the forward line...

True but you know what I mean, it's all bullsh1t wrapped in tinsel with this club!

Read what I wrote in the first instance - the minimal expectation from a coach is consistency of message and a sense of direction. People can live with inconsistent performances IF there is a sense of direction/improvement in the team.

For most of ratten's time at the club, we saw that. For most of Micks time at the club, we haven't.

This sums up my journey too. I thought he'd make us harder to play against.

We are light years way from that tipping point Synbad. I was hoping with Sticks' departure, some change would've occurred
MLG is just a figure head leader.
The megarich on the board have us by the short and curlies

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Must admit that I thought I never have to experience a period like 2002-07 again. Not going to get into the blame game, but the Board should admit responsibility for once. Major change at Board level needed.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

And you don't reckon the tipping point for change is just a myth??

We almost need a rally via social media boycotting attendance/memberships until the place is swept and fumigated clean

PS...take this to the bank. there will be no process in signing our next coach. It will be an experienced one.

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While we keep wasting 1st round picks on duds like Boakhurst etc etc and HBF then other clubs will and prob have gone past us at a rate of knots....
We need 6 new Mids thats where it all starts.
Our Forwards can never get any decent supply with the lack of mid preasure and 2 way running.

Worst Midfield in the comp

yeah worst mids in the comp for sure...

wont be long before stkilda starts showing us a clean pai of heels

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Why wasn't Boekhurst playing tonite ? WA boy, played ok in NAB games, well at least he broke some lines which is what only
Yarran does these days, since we ditched Jeffy.

i can't believe i just sat through that garbage at that shithole subiaco stadium with all those @#$%&! moron eagles supporters

actually those moron eagle supporters are the highlight of the night... THEY ARE BACK FOLKS !!!!., their idiot supporters are back !... 'top 4 !!!' ....'gee freo would be scared for next week watching this'.......'eagles...clap clap clap'

absolute wankers of the highest order

and they can shove their plastic song up their granny arseholes

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

you cant have bozos running the club for as long as they are and expect gold and flags

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But Grro, we let those moronic guys back after having them nice and quiet in the first Q.

I'll give you an example of where we are as a club.

Many on here applauded the recruitment of Everitt (not blaming him for our woes). I wasn't one of them. The reasoning was that people were satisfied that we simply dropped down the draft from pick 32 to 39 and picked up Everitt. We didn't have to give up too much. Flawed thinking in my view. In our situation, a complete rebuild should have commenced after 2012. Picking up a serviceable player, who has been in the system for many years was not the direction we should have taken. Complete rebuilds commence through the draft, particularly having multiple early picks. And yet I am still waiting for the club to get serious and rebuild this list from scratch.

For the record, I would traded Kreuzer three years ago when he had good value. I would have also considered a trade for Gibbs about two years ago. These are the sort of decisions that should have been made. The horse has bolted unfortunately.