gerry atric wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
Thought Mick spoke well at presser. Clearly can't tolerate Stevens, so Mick needs to be the adult and deadbat things back. We are not as good as the close losses indicate nor as bad as this. Positives, Jamo was excellent, Gibbs good, Rowe excellent and has loads of character. His rise is the single most satisfying thing in a woeful season. Juddy will be solid next year but his great days are behind him. White has a bit of mongrel. We just have few natural leaders compared to sides like Port. They wee getting into Murph again last night and no-one ay Carlton bothered.
Also lets forget about "project teams". Port came in with way worse conditions than any if the other new teams and have gone from basket case to finalist with sell out crowds. How exactly wd $12m help guys kick to team mates, not fumble etc. Port drafted their list on a shoestring if we constantly look for excuses and blame every else for our poor drafting and admin, we will be down the bottom forever. I admire what Port have done, wish we cd do that.
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Don't agree tap. Can't see how the AFL intervention would make a lot of difference at Carlton. Port drafted this side on a shoestring and i think their footy department spends way less than ours. I don't want handouts and how is 100 million going to make guys who can't kick, be able to hit targets. We have about 20 coaches including one of the best paid in the comp. we need to take responsibility for the decisions we make instead of bleating. Our club made the decisions that reduced us from a power to a rabble, no good blaming everyone else.
You raise some good points. I agree - Carlton has to look inwards to its own recruiting, to its own decision making... One could look at any number of recruiting decisions from Bootsma to Lucas to Watson to Warnock to even Kreuzer (vs Cotchin) as being mistakes in hindsight.
The resources should be there with 3 recruiting officers, and a head recruiting officer... but mistakes are still consistently made. Big mistakes.
Where I have a problem is that to engineer a "equitable competition" the AFL has to keep sticking its finger in the pie. One year it will be Port, next Brisbane etc...but they never assist Carlton, they just take from Carlton to assist these other clubs. Now that Port is a top 4 team does that mean that the AFL still has to drip-feed them money>? or are they ok now? When does the AFL give and take assistance and why isn't Carlton ever on their platform of assistance?
I presume they will be giving Port an extra 2-4 million this year over what Carlton gets- why not instead give that extra 2-4 million to Carlton and then Carlton can put that money into facilities, membership drives, player welfare, paying off debt etc.
Carlton has been down the ladder more than pretty much any other team over the last 10 years - more than Port anyway- can they divert funds to Carlton then? Is this taken into consideration by the AFL? Can they do something else for Carlton perhaps for a change?
That is all I am asking. Don't take - give to Carlton.
If we were operating in a capitalist/free market system then yes I would say it is all Carlton's fault if we were in the diabolical position we are in, but we are in a Soviet designed gulag/socialist system. Getting money and moral support from Moscow (AFL head office) is a key component of doing well in this competition. Do you think the rise of Hawthorn was all due to their own making for instance? or did Moscow have something to do with it? I can tell you that without Moscow Hawthorn would have not won the 2008 and 2013 flags.
Cry me a river. Moscow Shmoscow. Let's say the Pratts just once put in 2% of their assets ( LIKE _I_ DO EVERY YEAR). What do you reckon we could do with around $100 million. No, just make it ONE PERCENT plus another 1% from Matheson and Fried and a few of the other billionaires. We could probably raise around half a billion easily.
No, instead they all hang around like bad smells, demand seats on the board, have facilities named after them, criticise our recruiting in the media, and generally big note themselves. Liniment sniffers!!
Our issues have nothing to do with Moscow. We are an independent free state, albeit one that has to pay taxes and abide by Moscow's rules, but allowed to raise our own revenue however we like AND with the ability to do so. We just don't demand enough from our wealthiest citizens !!!!!!
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