were miles off the pace and its not mick... its the club

yes. and absolutely.
burn the club down and start again. (metaphorically speaking)
fresh air, ventilation, respectfulness, inclusiveness....great footy minds, innovative ideas..collaboration.
#whereforeouthosethings?
but........
seeing as we are so pathetic and will be for some time,
can we
at least
get rid of this patronising old bastard
at pressers,
and get someone articulate,
who does not try and humiliate others when
things have not gone his way?
He just makes everything worse.
Sam Lane did not deserve the absolute crap he gave her.
Just F@#& the hell off MM.
and if we must have him, can we ban him from pressers please?

Micro & macro are not new...that was the year in a nutshell as he replied.
Explained it perfectly & then needed to outline it again to Sam (a very ordinary reporter).
What's the issue here?
Thought he was quite measured throughout.
Soft skins out there.
I won't jump on the bashing when it's not valid.

I've got to be honest, I love Malthouse's conferences.

They are fantastic. Football """"""journo's"""""" would probably be the least respected position in my book.
The utter contempt Malthose has for them is justified. Imagine having to continually front up to a bunch of controversy inventing, ambulance chasing captain hindsight - questioning your decisions with little to no accountability.

The title, journalist, should be reserved for those who do their best to provide unbiased, accurate and detailed reports and discoveries on issues and matters that actually have some sort of relevance.
You know, like what's happening with genocide in Congo, sex slaves worldwide or the abhorrent events taking place in the Middle East. Or even to corruptions taking place in our own backyard.

Journalist is not a title they deserve. How about "shit spouting smegma stains?" that has a more accurate and appropriate description of their worth and validity to the world at large and more importantly their impact upon the game they report.

If the Essendon** doping saga has shown us anything - it has highlighted how pathetic these industry professionals really are.

So I don't have a problem with how Malthouse treats them. Seeing as he is a 30yr premiership coach, whose traces of peanuts in his faecal matter would have more football knowledge than any of them

Fair enough, but if he were asked the questions he should be asked, such as, "What do think you did well as a coach tonight?" or, "How do you think you could have improved your coaching tonight?", he would still flat out refuse to answer, saying something along the lines of, " It's not about me."

But then again, I suppose he has the right to flat out refuse to answer, because these pressers are just part of the circus anyway.

Lost me at Caro. Now that's an over opinionated person that regularly beats up the wrong side of a story, or attacks on personalities with her mis-guided agenda if I've ever heard & seen one.

Glad there's different opinions out there but I don't see the beat up over Sam Lane's lack of understanding of mechanics of micro/macro or those players supposedly on the "outer", which is absolutely absurd anyway you look at it & well explained.

Prefer to watch MM's presser than our former coach but then again I'd watch most things Carlton & will watch our next coach's as we go along but offensive is not a term I've ever associated with any presser....

It's not about how good or bad journos are, it is about how well Malthouse represents the club. A coach is about the whole package and there is no coach who is worse than Malthouse in representing the club when interviewed. When journos ask silly questions he sinks to their level, when he is challenged he doesn't calmly and clearly articulate our direction, our shortcomings etc he bristles. His pressers are the worst in the AFL, even worse than the Scott whingers. He is being paid by us, he has a responsibility to show us respect by answering for the teams performance and telling us clearly what is going right and wrong, and that needs to be done in an environment away from the dorothy dixers within the club.

If he reckons he can behave selfishly and churlishly when asked questions why should he expect the players not to have that attitude.

Love to know your take on the Essendon** drug saga, and the reporting of it.

I don't know why we have to keep repeating the same old stuff. Yes, the committee of unelected billionaires has been poor. Our appointments have been bad...3 coaches in a row sacked in contract. Ratts did an okay job but was way too inexperienced and we should have looked harder and done better. Our recruiting has been poor, look at all those picks beyond #1 that have been flops.

One example we give up a first rounder for McLean while the swans give up 39 fir kennedy, now he is way better than the swans thought but we almost always overpay they don't. I really dislike malthouse, he is a bitter self serving egotist, but he was a very good coach, as have many other now retired coaches. He states he came back because we begged him. He had retired he appears to be driven by a need to prove McGuire wrong. We have invested hugely in him so he needs to be better than just okay.

I can't believe how many people are satisfied with our performance this year. And MMs selfishness and self preservation were there for all to see this week. His ludicrous statement that e swans were the best list he has seen. He must have been looking the other way when he was coaching a state of origin quality kist at the eagles. So immediately we are playing the greatest side ever so 12 goal loss totally acceptable. Imagine what pressure hardwick wd be under if the tiges lose to the swans like this, and he has a worse list than us. Then Micks presser was embarrassing as he was his usual bellicose blathering self. Looking angry, stumbling over meaningless stats with less coherence than stats ratts and generally accepting no responsibility for the performance of the side and blundering on like an out of touch ceo trying to explain a company failure he doesn't understand and wants to accept no responsibility for. He has lost it.

Paul mccartney and bob dylan used to write great songs, they don't anymore, the stones used to be a great band but aren't now. Coaches have a useby date and mick's is gone. He is as nasty and unlikeable as sheedy and about as useful as a coach nowadays. And don't tell me he is right to act as he does in pressers. Yes you get some dumb questions but it is the only time the coach has to provide some genuine explanation to the fans who keep the club going. I am not interested in airbrushed cfc videos. We are years away, and surely no-one thinks meandering mick is a long term solution, he sounded like an angry confused old man after the game last night. Unless MLG has some real steel and smarts we are headed in the same direction as fitzroy. And mick won't give a damn, because he doesn't love or serve the club, he loves and serves himself.

I dont buy all this bs about the vic clubs being gone forever. The tpp system will see the same salary cap pressures for sydney, gc, gws rear its head again, making their superstars looking for other homes. Homes that are close to friends and family, homes that give them much more adulation than in sydney and brusbane. Just wait and see. The afl aimed to get the expansion sides up to speed asap and then will rely on the tpp system as well as free agency kick in. Mark my words.

Tonight was a look into the future. This will be the lot of many of the Victorian clubs for the foreseeable future. Our time has passed, we had our chances with the draft and blew it. With the advantages Sydney continue to enjoy, with the AFL all but ensuring GC and GWS will become superpowers, the competition is in danger of becoming like British soccer with the same few rich, powerful teams fighting out the title each year. The expansion teams must succeed, if that means Victorian clubs suffer, so be it.

Carlton, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, St Kilda, it'll be years before these clubs are able to challenge again. Unlike us, Hawthorn and Geelong recruited well and have had success, but their superstars are ageing and they'll soon enough be scrabbling around in the bottom half of the ladder. Collingwood and Richmond are on the slide. North are finals bound but haven't a premiership side and then there's Essendon** in the middle order and unlikely to challenge for a flag either.

What is the odds some Victorian clubs will be shipped interstate or overseas before too long? Northern Territory Crocs, or Tassie Tigers anyone? New Zealand Kiwis? Hell, let's thing big. What about the Los Angeles Blues? Oh, think of the largesse the AFL would heap on us then! Might be our only chance of a flag in the next twenty odd years.