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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:28 pm 
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Ellard is always straight in as soon as he is fit. Mick must love him.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:30 pm 
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Aside from Brock it's not a bad side


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:33 pm 
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Struggling to see where we will kick a score. Our talls won't have it easy against Richards, Grundy etc.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:47 pm 
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Sugarcane wrote:
Aside from Brock it's not a bad side


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:56 pm 
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Garlett is hlf the way to WA already

Hope Graham plays a full game.. so we can all take a close look at this young gun....

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The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:50 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Ellard - Wow MM loves him hey..


Because he gives everything he's got every game he plays.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:53 pm 
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Great strategy by MM to injure Carrazzo last week.
Deliberately made him hurt his quad so that he could throw Graham to the wolves.
The mans a genius i tell ya, a genius.

p.s. that's the fastest week ever.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:57 pm 
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Well yeh, the criteria to be a Carlton player: good guy, stays out of trouble, listens to the coach, and oh yeh is a nice guy.

I'm sorry but I have had enough of nice guys who TRY ( cry me a river).

I want to see tough, arrogant, and win at all cost players at Carlton for a change.!!

We are not a kindergarten, or choir group.

Ellard, McLean, Carazzo, Curnow, Bell all slow. Can't be in the same side in modern footy.

Bell and Curnow offer something, but the others don't.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:27 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

[FRYBIE]



On the flipside...I'm sure we'll learn more about Graham playing Sydney than we would have if he'd played last week

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:30 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

[FRYBIE]



On the flipside...I'm sure we'll learn more about Graham playing Sydney than we would have if he'd played last week


You can learn anything you like from one game....

I would like to see Graham get some decent senior game time over a dozen games or so against different opposition and playing different roles.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:36 pm 
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choo wrote:
Great strategy by MM to injure Carrazzo last week.
Deliberately made him hurt his quad so that he could throw Graham to the wolves.
The mans a genius i tell ya, a genius.

p.s. that's the fastest week ever.


What did you think of Mick's strategy of trying to get Menzel to join Ablett on the long term shoulder injury list?

I know I was very impressed with Menzel coming back on with shoulder strapped, and the blues being 12+ goals in front and the game in the balance...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:06 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

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I think you're delusional about our chances


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:07 pm 
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choo wrote:
Great strategy by MM to injure Carrazzo last week.
Deliberately made him hurt his quad so that he could throw Graham to the wolves.
The mans a genius i tell ya, a genius.

p.s. that's the fastest week ever.


Lol


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

[FRYBIE]



On the flipside...I'm sure we'll learn more about Graham playing Sydney than we would have if he'd played last week


The absurdity about the first post here is Sydney are an inside midfield team and Graham is an inside mid so is ideally suited to this game

Makes sense he gets a gig


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:10 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

[FRYBIE]



On the flipside...I'm sure we'll learn more about Graham playing Sydney than we would have if he'd played last week


You can learn anything you like from one game....

I would like to see Graham get some decent senior game time over a dozen games or so against different opposition and playing different roles.


Hang on
At some stage you have to earn it
When you come in you have to show something
Can't be handing out a dozen games willy nilly
Graham showed little in his two games this year
Got to take your chances


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:21 pm 
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Sugarcane wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
The Great Mick already painting the Swans as the best list the history of the game has ever seen - "17 or 18 of their reserve side could get games in senior AFL teams"

cunning man Mr Malthouse - has his favorites who he defends and protects and hides in the pockets

And has his "red line" players. Like Watson who he brings back against the HAwks and plays him on Roughead in the first quarter - then drops him.

Now finally he gives Graham a shot - and you guessed it ladies and gentlemen its against the Swans in Sydney, the most ferocious of tackling sides in the league and also having the highest workrate and discipline

Good Luck Graham - probably get dropped the following the week for not performing against the Swans in Sydney.

Mick setting this game up beautifully - if we lose, then its got nothing to do with him, (just the worlds number 1 list)

If we win, then it must be the supreme coaching skills of the master in the box - cant be the players, they are in an inferior list remember ladies and gentlemen?

(And of course, for the whole year guess which team has occupied the top spot for the most weeks? Hinkley Port Power - obviously they dont have the worlds number 1 list do they Mr Malthouse. Mick should get into politics after he finishes football - perfect nature)

I reckon we can knock the Swans off this week - and in spite of the lack of faith shown by the senior coach, it will be due to the efforts of the players ladies and gentlemen.

[FRYBIE]



On the flipside...I'm sure we'll learn more about Graham playing Sydney than we would have if he'd played last week


You can learn anything you like from one game....

I would like to see Graham get some decent senior game time over a dozen games or so against different opposition and playing different roles.


Hang on
At some stage you have to earn it
When you come in you have to show something
Can't be handing out a dozen games willy nilly
Graham showed little in his two games this year
Got to take your chances


Can't be expected to show much with limited time.
From what I saw he was reasonably clean and made OK decisions.
Clearly he isn't a linebreaker.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:29 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
choo wrote:
Great strategy by MM to injure Carrazzo last week.
Deliberately made him hurt his quad so that he could throw Graham to the wolves.
The mans a genius i tell ya, a genius.

p.s. that's the fastest week ever.


What did you think of Mick's strategy of trying to get Menzel to join Ablett on the long term shoulder injury list?

I know I was very impressed with Menzel coming back on with shoulder strapped, and the blues being 12+ goals in front and the game in the balance...


Yep that was MM's fault. Gagged the doctor, raced down to the bench on his walking frame and pushed Menzel back on the ground.
And wait til i see him next, what's the go with this cold weather.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:57 pm 
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Small ground. Hard inside team.
I don't know much about Graham but if we are looking to match it with tackles and contested footy we need hard at id inside mids. Slow is oK if they get to the ball. McLean is slow but he goes to where the ball will go next. That's why he gets a game. He doesn't hunt the footy he hunts open space.
We have Ellard, who isn't a bad goalsneak,
Graham, who people say is an inside mid,
Bell, who is hard at it, has a big tank and likes the inside stuff. he's also a burst player.
Judd, who isn't too bad at the inside stuff, even if his tackling isn't that flash,
Murphy who doesn't mind getting dirty when it's his turn,
Curnow, who is in the elits run-with category
Johnson, who has the body for footy and is keen to prove a point
Gibbs, who is more outside than inside bt is playing pretty well
Simmo, who isn't in the best form but can still find the footy

Yarran and Walker may take a short run in the middle but who knows?

That's a one paced midfield to be sure but it is also a hard one. If we can match it in the stoppages and try to keep the ball from going in quickly to Franklin and co, we might have a good game. Don't think we can win and don't want to be rising up the ladder to 12th or something at this stage of the season but this is a great game to work on the tackling and in and under stuff.

Jetta worries me. We have nobody who can go near him for pace except Yarran and it would be a waste of a plaer to put him on Jetta UNLESS we want Jetta to take him to FB, in which case Jetta is neutralized as well.

Swans by 20 odd would be a fair result for us IMO. We aren't in their league just yet thanks in no small part to the COLA..

I would have

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:08 am 
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Yep have to take your chances, Graham has played 2 quarters, must take your chances Graham, enjoy your 40 minutes of footy.... Give the kid a go..
Ellard, played one game for northern and he's back in, played so well to, earned he's spot, don't hand out games willy nilly do they.......
Curnow was another that return straight back into the team after missing 8 weeks, not even a single game for northern, earned he's spot, don't give out games willy nilly hey, please give us a spell...
Mick has he's favourites let's face it.
We are sitting what 13th for a reason, we have ordinary players who continue to get free games, it's that simple. Would McLean and Ellard get a game for the cats, hawks, freo or the swans??? Not a chance..
Garlett should have come in for Menzel, Graham for Carrazzo isn't bad, just hope he gets a few games in a row, can't expect him to come in and dominate, just play he's role..
I am not sure if Graham will make it but, reward for effort and the kid has produced week in week out for northern so deserves a game, unlike a few others who get a game thanks to mick...
Instead of focussing your efforts on a kid that's played 2 quarters this year, why not focus on the senior boys who have been playing for years, pick 11 for McLean remember, Graham was pick 52....
Makes me laugh when jokers are willing to have a crack at a kid and let the senior players get away with ordinary footy...
Let's take about handing out games willy nilly??? Ellard, McLean, Curnow and Bell.. Games right their handed out willy nilly.. What did Ellard do so well last week to earn a recall?? Likewise with Bell two weeks ago?? As stated before, Curnow missed 8 weeks didn't even play one game for northern and walks straight back in, McLean??? Please.... let's have a crack at a kid who has performed week in week out for northern all year!!!!!!! Yep smart...
Go back to your bottle of I am a flog and have a good look at yourself....


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