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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:57 am 
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So a teenage girl, who probably had her age set at 18 on the profile sends a 20yr old pics of her self naked and the guy sends back a pic of his stroodle. Girl shows pic or video to mother and mother reports to club. Club sacks and humiliates the player for a long time. About right?


Where does it say a girl was sending nude pics of herself to him?

Its incorrect.

He isnt a victim here.

He was sending messages to mutiple people through instagram, including a staff member.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:17 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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SnickerS wrote:
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So a teenage girl, who probably had her age set at 18 on the profile sends a 20yr old pics of her self naked and the guy sends back a pic of his stroodle. Girl shows pic or video to mother and mother reports to club. Club sacks and humiliates the player for a long time. About right?


Where does it say a girl was sending nude pics of herself to him?

Its incorrect.

He isnt a victim here.

He was sending messages to mutiple people through instagram, including a staff member.


Had to read bit that twice. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:42 am 
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Was waiting for the inevitable "It's not like he killed anyone FFS"

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:58 am 
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AIRCAV wrote:
bluechampion wrote:
The 2011 draft is a wasteland so far (aside from the GWS picks). We might actually have one of the better players in the draft with us now in Sam Docherty.


I'd agree with that. Here is the draft to date with Games played. Ive only listed players who have played a game.
Note: GWS had 11 of the first 14 picks

Player RPick Club Games
22 Josh Bootsma Carlton 14
23 Murray Newman West Coast 4
25 Sebastian Ross St Kilda 17
26 Todd Elton Richmond 1
27 Sam Kerridge Adelaide 22
29 Alex Forster Fremantle 1
30 Elliot Yeo Brisbane 27
31 Jackson Merrett Essendon** 23
33 Bradley Hill Hawthorn 39
37 Jack Newnes St Kilda 35
39 Michael Talia Western Bulldogs 16
41 Mitch Grigg Adelaide 10
42 Jimmy Webster St Kilda 19
44 Sam Rowe Carlton 19
48 Jordan Murdoch Geelong 29
49 Daniel Pearce Western Bulldogs 5
50 Jackson Paine Collingwood 6
51 Nathan Blee Port Adelaide 6
52 Josh Tynan Melbourne 2
54 James Sellar Melbourne 23
55 Matthew Arnot Richmond 7
56 Tom Downie Greater Western Sydney 1
57 Tory Dickson Western Bulldogs 34
58 Lachie Neale Fremantle 32
59 Nick OBrien Essendon** 5
62 Dylan Buckley Carlton 9
66 Lincoln McCarthy Geelong 3
67 Jarrod Witts Collingwood 15
68 Beau Maister St Kilda 21
71 Cameron Sutcliffe Fremantle 33
78 Orren Stephenson Geelong 8
79 Setanta OhAilpin Greater Western Sydney 8
86 Jed Bews Geelong 3
87 James McDonald Greater Western Sydney 13
88 Alex Sexton Gold Coast 13
91 Jackson Allen Gold Coast 4


Shoulda taken Buckley :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

edit: We coulda taken OhAilpin at 79? we really are a rabble...

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:08 pm 
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I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.

At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:14 pm 
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trublu wrote:
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trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.


At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


They players definitely used to give it to him on instagram


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:18 pm 
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trublu wrote:
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trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.

At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


was the Hawthorn leadership group inept with their handling of Garlett or are their players who just aren't up to handling the responsibilities of being an AFL player ?


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He's a bit stiff...

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:50 pm 
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trublu wrote:
BIRDTOWN wrote:
trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.

At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


The same Jobe that took the word of his coach and allowed his team mates to use questionable supplements?


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:34 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Was so compromised, that most Clubs got nothing out of that draft if you look back at it.

A brad Hill, Jackson Merrett etc would be handy right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:36 pm 
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Jez1966 wrote:
trublu wrote:
BIRDTOWN wrote:
trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.

At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


The same Jobe that took the word of his coach and allowed his team mates to use questionable supplements?


The same Jobe that saw his coach bring in a convicted criminal (Charters) to help with a "supplements" program and nevertheless embraced it enthusiastically.

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:38 pm 
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SnickerS wrote:
trublu wrote:
BIRDTOWN wrote:
trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.


At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.


They players definitely used to give it to him on instagram


The boys give it to everyone on social media. They all run with the hashtag #flogmcinnes

If boots was copping it on Instagram, I'd say it looks like they were embracing him.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:39 pm 
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Add Lachie Neale to the list of players who would be of good use right now.

Bootsma was always a strange decision . Wayne Hughes' parting gift I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:49 pm 
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idle wrote:
I feel sorry for the guy. Clearly he wasn't coping with the vigor's of being a professional athlete / young person, and made some pretty stupid mistakes. I hope something like this doesn't destroy him as a person. Playing AFL at the elite level is such a privilege, the lifestyle, the financial security, all the percs that come with it. In an instant POOF! and there gorn! Pretty brutal outcome if you ask me. Sure hope he has some sort of back up plan in the works, or at the very least parents with money. A young family on the way, no employment, doesn't make for a happy life starting out so young. Yup, I feel sorry for him ...


It was a girl he posted the picks to. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:53 pm 
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woof wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
So a teenage girl, who probably had her age set at 18 on the profile sends a 20yr old pics of her self naked and the guy sends back a pic of his stroodle. Girl shows pic or video to mother and mother reports to club. Club sacks and humiliates the player for a long time. About right?


Lets get him back quickly.

The triple M guys this morning went with this story (no sure if it has been mentioned on prior posts);

Bootsma is selected to play Gold Coast last year up in the Gold Coast and in the morning of the game he says he has an upset stomach and can't play. He is replaced in the team and stays back at the hotel and hooks up with his girlfriend and has some fun at the beach. Even posted photos of his adventures.

The story about Bootsma and the Gold Coast game is mentioned in todays HUN. Shocking if true.


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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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Dodo27 wrote:
We are Craft Masters at wasting and burning first round picks. The recruitment at Carlton has gone to a new level-beyond a Joke!!!


Bootsma was gone anyways end of year and the way things are going, he will soon be joined by another First rounder-Kane Lucas.

How could the Club do this to its members? The Club should be banned from Recruiting players outside of VIC!!! Sam Kerriage and Brad Hill are two players who could have been playing for us :(


Go back home, Zach Tuohy!

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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The Club should be banned from Recruiting players outside of VIC!!! Sam Kerriage and Brad Hill are two players who could have been playing for us :(


Can we get the Benny Hill music to play in the background whenever this bloke posts?

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 Post subject: Re: Bootsma Sakced!
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trublu wrote:
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trublu wrote:
I posted about Josh's struggles back in April. I won't go into much detail but some of issues stem from feeling isolated and somewhat bullied as he was basically the kid everyone hung s h i t on and it led to feeling very frustrated. It's no excuse for why he did


You might as well go into detail, what's to lose now?

I remember your earlier post, well done.


He hasn't enjoyed his time at all since being recruited to our club. Its pretty sad to be honest but i think he did have some talent.

I feel Josh was let down by senior players of the club who should have protected him a bit more. I couldn't see Nick Maxwell or Jobe Watson allowing what i would call a form of group bullying to go on within their playing group.

Im not going to go into detail.

At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and you cannot defend what he did.




well if he felt bullied... (why do many people feel bullied these days? ) he felt it was ok to do what he did..... says alot about his character doesnt it?
Wasnt profiled by the club at all this bloke!!!

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