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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:06 pm 
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eric pascoe wrote:
14 minutes into the last, Goal by Zac, 16 points up. Game should have been over then. Hate to harp about this but I've counted 7 individual moments thereafter in which the umpires made crucial mistakes which ultimately gifted them the win. Not an excuse for losing, but after having fought back really well (yes, there were positives), our fate was taken from our hands.

I turned off the TV and didnt watch the last quarter. Just brought myself to watch the replay and agree with everything you said.
Crucial umpiring cost us dearly. The free or mark to Brown was a joke, the non free or mark to Yarran, 2 hands in the back that went ignored The second one that wasnt paid was against Menzel which resulted in them getting a goal.
The umpiring rot started in the first minute of the game, that free in front of goal was for absolutely nothing and their second goal was kicked from 6 inches over the boundary line.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:06 pm 
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unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:09 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
Because our points against are worse than in 2010 to 2012 makes malthouse the source of our poor performances
But no judd, kreuzer, walker, scotland or any kids to replace them, has little to do with it.
Could the forum nominate an unbiased member to compare our list to melbournes? I would like to see the result. And yes roos>mm>ratten but roos didnt want carlton


The point is MM has done nothing remarkable to warrant a contract extension has he?

Therefore the club could make big savings after the 2015 season and subsequently put those savings into recruiting and development coaches.

We all bemoan the recruiting and development yet some seem unfazed with the money being pissed up against the wall on the Arizona trip and that MM would be on good coin compared to many coaches.

122 points against to 82 in a season for Melbourne; yet things have got worse under Malthouse.


people just wanna believe were a big club... with super stars... and the club is heading in the right direction

wanna see how crap we are..?
i dare somebody to do an analysis of where our recruits are right now....

do nine years draft to current

but just first 4 rounds...
That will tell you the story

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:13 pm 
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Seriously. I can't believe reading this thread that people are surprised with the loss, or blaming the umpires.

We are bottom 4. We are at rock bottom. Absolutely nothing coming through the twos is the way of youth. The club needs to swallow their pride and completely blow it up and rebuild. I can easily name 12 players on this list should go - yet the club continues to give them contracts and the supporters love them and overlook their flaws as they cannot take their blue glasses off.

How is anyone surprised? Some of us have been screaming for this for a long time now.

Hopefully this is the last (of which there have been many) slap in the face the powers that be need, to really hack away at this list. The player development and recruitment.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:14 pm 
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We are shit. End of story.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:14 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.

so the last ten years of drafting is about arizona is it?

heres a newsflash..... we had nobody coming in before and during arizona...

just crazy thinking now..... right out there la la stuff

this is fundamental and wrong with the footy club since the AFL... before that we knew how to play the game

we have been run by bozos.. and sticks kernahan ran the joint for 6 years... and people were happy..
it starts at the top.....

to think we can do all the things we have been doing... and we would have a great side right now is crazy

alot of our best players cant perform... our most consistent player from the last decade just retired.. the next most consistent is 30 already

we have overlooked the midfield .. crucial
we stlll havent drafted one tall whos any good in the national draft... except kennedy and we have him away for a guy taking 1.5 mill a year for 6 years and a mill this year and hes only played 5 minutes for the season

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:18 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.


And rightly so too! I am in complete agreement. Trips like Arizona should be treated as a PRIVILEGE, not a damn right. Reward successful teams with overseas trips to train in special places to keep things fresh and interesting, but unless you see finals, then trips to Arizona should be EARNED, not freely given like some reward for just showing up and playing.

I don't see any benefit OTHER than bonding, mate-ship and a change of environment for players. I can think of a million places that could offer the very same thing right here, and cost a hell of a lot less. Money better spent elsewhere until we start being a regular contender in September. With success comes the $Money$ where overseas training camps are afforded. If I had my way, next summer would be spent AT THE CLUB, heads down bums up working hard and earning the right to travel overseas to train.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:23 pm 
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anyway... i dont give the club a cent... though i gave it $2 the other day when i bought two hot dogs.... but thats about it.. so i contribute

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:24 pm 
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bluebeard wrote:
Waite is a liability.
On a positive note, Casboult is finding his feet.

Generally speaking, we look terrible when we play slow, possession heavy footy.
We just don't have the skill to pull it off. We get cut open every time.

The umpiring was horrible.


If we get offered pick 25ish for casboult I would take it and run. He has improved but I cant see him as a kpf in a final


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:26 pm 
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Cas is improving, but no-one will give a pick 25 for a 24 year old KPP who has kicked 17 goals from 24 games.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:27 pm 
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casboult is terrible if youre going to be a finals team

but hes great for us..... we harbour no ambitions

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:29 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
anyway... i dont give the club a cent... though i gave it $2 the other day when i bought two hot dogs.... but thats about it.. so i contribute


$2 for 2 hot dogs, bargain of the century. Bunnings eat your heart out.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:34 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.

so the last ten years of drafting is about arizona is it?

heres a newsflash..... we had nobody coming in before and during arizona...

just crazy thinking now..... right out there la la stuff

this is fundamental and wrong with the footy club since the AFL... before that we knew how to play the game

we have been run by bozos.. and sticks kernahan ran the joint for 6 years... and people were happy..
it starts at the top.....

to think we can do all the things we have been doing... and we would have a great side right now is crazy

alot of our best players cant perform... our most consistent player from the last decade just retired.. the next most consistent is 30 already

we have overlooked the midfield .. crucial
we stlll havent drafted one tall whos any good in the national draft... except kennedy and we have him away for a guy taking 1.5 mill a year for 6 years and a mill this year and hes only played 5 minutes for the season


I heard it was 2mil a year and 1.5 this year.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:39 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.

so the last ten years of drafting is about arizona is it?

heres a newsflash..... we had nobody coming in before and during arizona...

just crazy thinking now..... right out there la la stuff

this is fundamental and wrong with the footy club since the AFL... before that we knew how to play the game

we have been run by bozos.. and sticks kernahan ran the joint for 6 years... and people were happy..
it starts at the top.....

to think we can do all the things we have been doing... and we would have a great side right now is crazy

alot of our best players cant perform... our most consistent player from the last decade just retired.. the next most consistent is 30 already

we have overlooked the midfield .. crucial
we stlll havent drafted one tall whos any good in the national draft... except kennedy and we have him away for a guy taking 1.5 mill a year for 6 years and a mill this year and hes only played 5 minutes for the season


read his post properly before you go off on your repetitive agenda synners.

I generally respect a lot of your postts, but he is questioning why we spend money on going to Arizona rather than putting it into other areas that will better develop us, like recruiting.

he has a valid point, and this is a forum, where others can have valid points too. he actually goes a way to support your argument :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:41 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Synbad wrote:
unless of curse youre saying our list is great but were let down by the arizona trip...


Not at all - just that there is nothing to indicate that Arizona is providing any benefit.

As members (some of us, I may join you next year as a non member depending on end of season decisions) we are entitled to question how the club uses its funds.

I'll give you that
Arizona can chew my balls


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:41 pm 
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Gibbs was awesome


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:44 pm 
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Sugarcane wrote:
At least we're not Richmond


I sincerely hope that's sarcasm????

Because we are Richmond in every single way bar name


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:47 pm 
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sstormin123 wrote:
Sugarcane wrote:
At least we're not Richmond


I sincerely hope that's sarcasm????

Because we are Richmond in every single way bar name

You mean the Richmond that we lost to?


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:52 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Cas is improving, but no-one will give a pick 25 for a 24 year old KPP who has kicked 17 goals from 24 games.


Tigers gave us 28 or thereabouts for Hammer.
#believe

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 9:55 pm 
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Betya the Lions used Docherty as motivation tonight.

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