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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:18 pm 
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well, I'd like to see King Rossy knocked off his glorified perch.
not much chance,
but one can hope.


60/40 us I reckon.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:25 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
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well, I'd like to see King Rossy knocked off his glorified perch.
not much chance,
but one can hope.


60/40 us I reckon.


really??
why you think we might win cimm?? :smile:
should I dare to hope?
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I've been a negative-nellie for the past 3 weeks straight and each time the team has done the job. Think I'll continue that into this week too :D

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:50 pm 
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Huge game.

Will need to be very smart with our F50 entries and take our chances.

Have no doubt we will give ourselves an opportunity to win. See us though having a lot of the ball, wasting chances and then watch them go forward and scoring with relative ease.

Honestly, don't dislike Freo (as opposed to WCE) however when they play us, can't stand them. @#$%&! you Freo :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:51 pm 
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I've been a negative-nellie for the past 3 weeks straight and each time the team has done the job. Think I'll continue that into this week too :D


Only 3 weeks? Bullshit :razz: :thumbsup:

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Another lost opportunity ... 'weak as water' by the MC. Still ... its what we have come to expect.


Why?

We are still trying to make finals , arguably not right time to blood kids

Continuity


Hmmm ... you can't have it both ways ... either we have a side thats good enough to cause trouble in September or we don't. Making the finals only to be ejected in the first week is a pathetic excuse for not taking risks at the selection table. There are players in the side that are not performing. For example ... Rowe. He and others have been given a good run the last few weeks ... so now ... why not try to improve the side ... why not shake it up. When you take risks you find out more about your players ... Now I know tricky Micky would like to make the finals (especially when he inherited a side that really should now be higher up the ladder) but if he is really about making this side better ... thats what he should be doing!

As for other comments about players in the vfl not knocking the door down ... I think those posters should go and have a look at the Northern Blues the last couple of weeks. There are several names that are up in lights and we need to start trying them out.

Pathetic by the MC. And yes it is as expected ... safe ... unimaginative and ultimately not in the best interests of the CFC. Even if we win against Fremantle ... and I hope we do (I'll be jumping for joy) ... in the long run it does not help when you don't take risks ... 1 or 2 changes would not stuff up the continuity of the side ... Pathetic by the MC.

Yep. We should win the flag by a record margin. Especially since MM inherited a team that..... er ....... um ........ a team that ...... well ....... got smashed by an expansion team that had won 3 games all together and had 9 of its best players out. Even uber-coach Ratten wouldn't be able to pull that one off, how do you expect a dud like Malthouse to do it.....

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bluegirl72 wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
well, I'd like to see King Rossy knocked off his glorified perch.
not much chance,
but one can hope.


60/40 us I reckon.


really??
why you think we might win cimm?? :smile:
should I dare to hope?
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We are going ok.
They have no McPharlin or Pav they are their two most important players.

Sandy is still lumbering and I just think they drop their heads becAuse they are not getting reward for effort when playing in Vic.

Plus, and this might seem not that important but, they are a team you CAN TACKLE. They are not As big and hard to stop as some of the cyborgs teams out there.

Their release/ running players are all very stoppable and they have couple of kids that are a little unsure. Their execution under pressure is sus.

If it was at the MCG I reckon we'd win x 5 goals. At Etihad it suits them more but I still think us by 3.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:36 pm 
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I would left robbo out this week. Can't afford to burn the ball going forward

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moshe25 wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
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Another lost opportunity ... 'weak as water' by the MC. Still ... its what we have come to expect.


Why?

We are still trying to make finals , arguably not right time to blood kids

Continuity


Hmmm ... you can't have it both ways ... either we have a side thats good enough to cause trouble in September or we don't. Making the finals only to be ejected in the first week is a pathetic excuse for not taking risks at the selection table. There are players in the side that are not performing. For example ... Rowe. He and others have been given a good run the last few weeks ... so now ... why not try to improve the side ... why not shake it up. When you take risks you find out more about your players ... Now I know tricky Micky would like to make the finals (especially when he inherited a side that really should now be higher up the ladder) but if he is really about making this side better ... thats what he should be doing!

As for other comments about players in the vfl not knocking the door down ... I think those posters should go and have a look at the Northern Blues the last couple of weeks. There are several names that are up in lights and we need to start trying them out.

Pathetic by the MC. And yes it is as expected ... safe ... unimaginative and ultimately not in the best interests of the CFC. Even if we win against Fremantle ... and I hope we do (I'll be jumping for joy) ... in the long run it does not help when you don't take risks ... 1 or 2 changes would not stuff up the continuity of the side ... Pathetic by the MC.

Yep. We should win the flag by a record margin. Especially since MM inherited a team that..... er ....... um ........ a team that ...... well ....... got smashed by an expansion team that had won 3 games all together and had 9 of its best players out. Even uber-coach Ratten wouldn't be able to pull that one off, how do you expect a dud like Malthouse to do it.....


Well ... how many times did we beat Collingwood and Richmond last year ... enough said. Its an old story and we can go round and round ... last year Ratten was criticized when he could not get us to Prelim. Yes ... we do have a talented but under performing side. Forget about Ratten ... we are talking MC here who have a policy of being safe and unimaginative which is not in the best interests of the CFC.

Man I hope we win tomorrow night ... I've supported the Blues for 40 odd years ... and I just want the best possible outcome ... but sometimes you need to take risks to build a side ... opportunity lost ... badly done MC again.

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BigBlueWave wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Sugarcane wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Another lost opportunity ... 'weak as water' by the MC. Still ... its what we have come to expect.


Why?

We are still trying to make finals , arguably not right time to blood kids

Continuity


Hmmm ... you can't have it both ways ... either we have a side thats good enough to cause trouble in September or we don't. Making the finals only to be ejected in the first week is a pathetic excuse for not taking risks at the selection table. There are players in the side that are not performing. For example ... Rowe. He and others have been given a good run the last few weeks ... so now ... why not try to improve the side ... why not shake it up. When you take risks you find out more about your players ... Now I know tricky Micky would like to make the finals (especially when he inherited a side that really should now be higher up the ladder) but if he is really about making this side better ... thats what he should be doing!

As for other comments about players in the vfl not knocking the door down ... I think those posters should go and have a look at the Northern Blues the last couple of weeks. There are several names that are up in lights and we need to start trying them out.

Pathetic by the MC. And yes it is as expected ... safe ... unimaginative and ultimately not in the best interests of the CFC. Even if we win against Fremantle ... and I hope we do (I'll be jumping for joy) ... in the long run it does not help when you don't take risks ... 1 or 2 changes would not stuff up the continuity of the side ... Pathetic by the MC.

Yep. We should win the flag by a record margin. Especially since MM inherited a team that..... er ....... um ........ a team that ...... well ....... got smashed by an expansion team that had won 3 games all together and had 9 of its best players out. Even uber-coach Ratten wouldn't be able to pull that one off, how do you expect a dud like Malthouse to do it.....


Well ... how many times did we beat Collingwood and Richmond last year ... enough said. Its an old story and we can go round and round ... last year Ratten was criticized when he could not get us to Prelim. Yes ... we do have a talented but under performing side. Forget about Ratten ... we are talking MC here who have a policy of being safe and unimaginative which is not in the best interests of the CFC.

Man I hope we win tomorrow night ... I've supported the Blues for 40 odd years ... and I just want the best possible outcome ... but sometimes you need to take risks to build a side ... opportunity lost ... badly done MC again.

He wasn't criticised for not getting us into a Prelim. He was criticised for:

- bad development;
- losing the players;
- having a game style that couldn't withstand good pressure;
- implementing inappropriate game plans that were picked apart by top teams.

..... and probably hundreds of other things that those folk who know a lot more than I about footy, could probably articulate.

Everyone in the world (except maybe you) knows he wasn't the right coach for this footy club. Now, will any coach make a difference, given the cesspool that over 20 years of mismanagement has left this club in? Who knows? But at least with Malthouse we have someone who has proved he can:
- turn around a club culture;
- extract the most from good ordinary players;
- build a team that can make it to consecutive preliminary finals;
- take a team ALL THE WAY (THREE TIMES NOW!!!!)

All Ratten could do was beat Collingwood and Richmond during the H&A season, quote stats, eat lollies, barrack hard, and ultimately fail.

I know which one I'd rather take a risk on.

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Sydney went 1-2 against Collingwood and Richmond last year.....

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Lets hang our hats on beating tigers and the pies every year and we should be satisfied.what is everyone's problem. :thumbsup:


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Stats might prove otherwise, but Freo seem to be a team that you're a great chance if you're up early. Fall behind early and they'll shut it down.

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We've managed to win three in a row, but without anything noteworthy along the way. No standout contributors (besides hendo doing a damn fine job up forward) but really can anyone say WOW?

If anyone watched Hawthorn play last week, you could say WOW! But Carlton? What a breakout game Murphy played? Judd has been unstoppable? Garlett, Betts and Yarran most the damaging goal sneaks in the business? Best center clearance side in the comp? Rock solid defense?

This is why I have hope. We're yet to see this team at their best. If we'd played our best footy, and that's all we've got, I'd be really worried. All bloody year (besides that Collingwood nightmare) we've played like "the team that nearly could" and fallen just short.

Right now Hawthorn, and especially Sydney - its all coming together. Geelong can do anything. But Carlton?

Some would argue we just don't possess the cattle, like the top 4 sides do. I would argue that maybe true, but until we see our cattle at their absolute best, how can we tell for sure?

All year I've watched our team almost make it. To lose by small margins week in week out has got to hurt. And it did. Sapped the confidence right out us.

Now its three in a row. I don't care who we're up against this week. Confidence should be beginning to lift, and with it FORM!

If ever there was a time for a breakout game this is it! Time to make our intentions loud and clear.

I am expecting more than a win this week against Freo. I am expecting some standout contributions right across the board - basically our best talent to lead the way and make mince meat of Freo.

If we don't? Not going to happen. I predict a very different side than the one we've been watching the last 3 weeks. Carlton by 10 goals!


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Hey Moshe

Disagree with just about everything you have said ... but it just doesn't matter ... we have gone round and round on the Ratten thing ... every point you make I can make an equal one ... and in my opinion better ... :smile: :razz:

We are now talking Tricky Micky ... and more importantly my post was about the weak performance of the MC. The old boldness and risk taking ability of Carlton has been lost ... and nothing highlights this more than our MC.

No guts ... no glory. I will be very happy for a win against the Dockers ... but we could also get a lot more out of this game for the future ... win or lose. The MC is scared of making a mistake ... pathetic.

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How long since we have won 4 in a row? Did we do it earlier this year?
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How long since we have won 4 in a row? Did we do it earlier this year?
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2 x 3 wins in a row..

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4 in a row was back in 2011.

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Disagree with just about everything you have said ... but it just doesn't matter ... we have gone round and round on the Ratten thing ... every point you make I can make an equal one ... and in my opinion better ... :smile: :razz:

We are now talking Tricky Micky ... and more importantly my post was about the weak performance of the MC. The old boldness and risk taking ability of Carlton has been lost ... and nothing highlights this more than our MC.

No guts ... no glory. I will be very happy for a win against the Dockers ... but we could also get a lot more out of this game for the future ... win or lose. The MC is scared of making a mistake ... pathetic.


Nah...you just wanna give a whack for the sake of giving a whack - but in this case your argument is against selection? It beggars belief because it's something none of us are privy to. You don't know who had a great week on the track, how cases were made for/against match-ups, attitude, fitness and form. You didn't even consider that in selecting an unchanged team that perhaps the match committee are being bold.


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