I just love it when rich people with big mouths chuck in their 2 bobs worth
I wish Clive Palmer was a Carlton sponsor

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We need to realise however that we are as strong as we are because these families are part of our culture and without them we would be just another club, ie. StKilda. These business men by the way did not succeed because they are idiots or did not make us the CFC we are because they don't know what they are doing! Supporters like us put our thoughts forward but at the end of the day we know JACK compared to these guys.
If people want to be insignificant again, then put a ticket together and challenge! A ticket consisting of people outside the "circle of trust" if you prefer as we did previously but be prepared to watch us die a slow but wonderful death at Etihad under AFL control!

Judds not the same player

Wins of the back of Judd and (in 2008-2009) Fev at their peak.
Ratten could only build one story of a two story house. He couldn't take the list that extra step.
He was given FIVE YEARS. Given the facitities. Given the players he asked for, and he couldn't do it.

He let the players be downhill skiers, which allowed us to play pretty football when it clicked, but meant we were sliced apart when it didn't. We were never going to be Top 4 or go anywhere near a Flag with that sort of footy (even when we finished 5th, we were still 2 and a half games off Top 4). That's why we always crashed and burnt in the heat of Finals.
In the end, when things weren't going to plan, he had no answers. He began lashing out at players and off field staff. He'd lost the plot. He'd run his race.
Teams like Hawthorn, Geelong and Collingwood can put on the 'razzle dazzle', but can also smash you into the turf if they have to. That's why they ve stayed a the top for so long. Its a mindset we re so far away from its not funny.
They ve had 5 years on unaccountable footy. MM has to teach the players to 'walk again'. He knows what it takes to win a flag. He's building for the top, not just aiming to sneak into the Top 8 and say 'look at us. we made the Finals' like Ratten did..
If that means taking a step back this year, to take strides forward thereafter, so be it.

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Beautifully put.

Still, there doesn't seem to be much of a plan with the leftovers. It seems mechanical and unintuitive.

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Malthouse is on the case already...

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Ronald Dale Barassi came across in 1965 and brought this Club that next step from Mediocre to Ultra Professional. While I'm not saying that MM will do an exact Barass, he can do something similar in terms of steering the ship forward in the right direction towards the Top.
I think people around the place got ahead of themselves and didn't quite understand exactly where we were at as a Club. Malthouse has the knowledge and respect in AFL circles to be 'listened to' by people at the Club. They know he knows what it takes. If he says, 'we need to change this' or 'we need to get rid of that', then it'll be done. His record as Coach speaks for itself.
Rome wasn't built in a day!!

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To be fair to Bruce he did say the same thing about recruiting and recruitment last year.....

maybe he got the inside word then too??

Club is a beacon of professionalism.. and mm is ruining it

where are our leaders??

after 5 plus seasons under Ratts what happened to them???

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[quote="Synbad"]Club is a beacon of professionalism.. and mm is ruining it [quote]

Hey mate

Sorry what do you mean MM is ruining it?

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its tongue in cheek....

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He means that Sticks, Swann and Macca thought we were MM away from a flag.
Now MM has come in, has had a look at our list and the Club as a whole, and said 'hey guys, things aint that flash'.

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What does it say about their judgment?

Sticks in particular has been on the board through an extended period of poor decision making - how can he justify staying as a key decision maker when his track record is so poor?

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"whats a circle of trust"????

define what u mean in our case and give us examples

u mean trust excluding everyboy else????

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I think it means Robert De Niro is being sounded out for the Carlton Presidency.

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by hiding from accountability of course....same with the rest.....

remember... we ask the players on the field to be accountable

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Had 15 min at work, so analysed 2004 to 2007.

2007 National Draft

Pick 1 - Priority Selection : Matthew Kreuzer, Northern Knights U18
Pick 36 : Steven Browne, West Perth, WA
Pick 46 : Dennis Armfield, Swan Districts, WA
Pick 65 : Not utilised

2006 National Draft

Pick 1 : Bryce Gibbs, Glenelg, SANFL
Pick 17 - Priority Selection: Shaun Hampson, Mt Gravatt, Queensland ?
Pick 19 : Shaun Grigg, North Ballarat
Pick 35 : Mark Austin, Glenelg, SANFL
Pick 51 : Clinton Benjamin*, Claremont, WA
Pick 67 : Joe Anderson, Darwin, NT
Pick 81 : Not utilised

2005 National Draft

Pick 1 - Priority Selection: Marc Murphy, Oakleigh Chargers U18
Pick 4 : Josh Kennedy, East Fremantle, WAFL
Pick 20 : Paul Bower, Peel Thunder, WAFL
Pick 36 : Jake Edwards, Western Jets U18

2004 National Draft
Pick 9 : Jordan Russell, West Adelaide, SANFL
Pick 25 : Adam Hartlett, West Adelaide, SANFL
Pick 41 : Luke Blackwell, Swan Districts, WAFL - (Father/Son selection)
Pick 73 : Chris Bryan, Frankston, VFL
Pick 77 : Anthony Raso*, Dandenong Stingrays


ANALYSIS:
2004 was a terrible year with everyone pretty much bombing.
20 of the 71 remain on a list; picks 1-7 and then 13 from picks 8-78; and even with this we have f/s travis cloke and 6 having changed clubs.

2005 saw us chase KPD and forward with our picks. Of the 14 still on a list from picks 20 only 4 met the type we were searching for
Patful 56; Carlile 44; Spangher 34 (now with hawks); and Gilbert 33

2006 is the one that hurts most. With 5 Picks between 17 - 67 we missed
Dawes; McKenzie; Tippett; Goldstein; Garland; Schofield; Gray; Goldsack; Westhoff; MacKay of note.

2007
With only 3 picks and with 2 remaining, one of our better efforts. We missed out on, of note,
S Thomson (Roos); Mayne; Polkinghorn; Steven; Hooker; Dalziel; Bird; More than 2/3 rds of players selected have been delisted from pick 36 onwards.

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No reflection on the 'old money' behind the scenes at the club but a general commentary upon reflected glory; be careful with your faith in 'successful businessmen', I know several who float backwards and forwards somewhere between rich and bankrupt depending on whether the tax department can find them! I meet them for lunch on odd occasions and one month it is a gleaming new Porsche 911 Carerra and a Centurion card at a top restaurant, a few months later it is an old Ford at a Subway somewhere and they are paying with a big roll of $100 bills so they can live in cash to avoid the taxman!

I know nobody in the 'circle of trust' but I wonder if we did a Carlton parody of Game of Thrones, which club identities would be which GOT characters. I get the feeling that Sticks is a benevolent guy playing the role of King Joffrey because the much more powerful identities would rather sit back behind the scenes and tell him what to do (as per Tywin Lannister).

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Say what you want about Mathieson's opinions, but when Jezza talks, I think we should listen...

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#GUILTY