Wayne Hughes would have picked Kreuzer.

As pointless as asking if Hardwick would have asked for Kreuzer if he was at Richmond six years ago.

Mick didn't storm into Visy Park and ask for Jaksch, Corr or Lonergan last year to fill a need. He trusted Rogers to pick Menzel. No different to Mick allowing Hine to take Thomas ahead of Pendlebury who is the better footballer.

Kreuzer was ranked at one by most clubs, but keep the redundant hindsight up.


I believe the Tigers wanted Kreuzer.

Retrospective draft considerations about who should have been selected ahead of who are always pointless...

People should look at the draft more simply: did we draft a good player? In MK the answer is yes.

It is very rare that the #1 pick is the best player in the draft. Not many of them have been. It should only mean that you get a gun player and we got three. All have room for improvement but all would walk into any team in the league. The rest is irrelevant.

They didn't call it the "kreuzer Cup" for nothing.

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My last go at the round 1 team....

Tuohy Jamo Laidler
Yarran White Gibbs
Simmo Judd Lucas
Garlett Hendo Robbo
Betts Casboult Walker

Kreuzer Carrazzo Murphy

Inter: Armfield Brock Warnock

Sub: Bell


Hammer vs Warnock is the one I keep flip flopping on. I still have the feeling that MM will prefer Hammer in round 1 because he is a bit more dangerous than 206 as a forward, plus he may want to see how badly Warnock wants it in the early VFL games, but I keep coming back to the idea that when we win games in 2013 it will be due to our mids - and 206 gives them better service with his taps.

Hendo to start forward but he can go behind the ball late in quarters when Kreuzer goes forward. If White is getting towelled up, he and Hendo may need to swap roles.

I doubt it will happen, but I have pushed Duigan out. Gibbs to rotate off HB with Simmo, Judd and Carrazzo. Bell as Sub.

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If Duigan plays, who misses out?

Why would Henderson play forward. All preseason he has played back with White as a swingman. At no time has he been foward. So why confuse the issue when the players are still learning the game plan.

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Because TC says so silly Teddy.
Just like waite in the midfield, collins and ellard in the bp - why wont they listen to us?

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Hendo spent some time forward in the Freo game actually. But I admit it is unlikely he will start forward in round 1 because of MM's focus on defence.

That team I posted earlier is what I would like to see, not what I expect to see.

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Bell, Garlett, Armfield, White or Tuohy I guess. Walker might be surprise omission. I tend to think Lucas is fairly safe.

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You're so right! Hendo as a forward is insane talk. Complete left field gibberish! What was I thinking?

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its crazy talk abns

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There are suggestions on supercoach forums that Menzel may be a surprise selection. That would be a surprise.

As silly as it sounds, it's a better option than Hampson playing forward.

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"GIBBS."

Extremely nervous already. Going to be a long week, even with a Thurs game.

Want nothing more than to come out and get the job done convincingly. Not all that confident we will though. Hope I'm wrong.

I hate being a nervous Nellie. Maybe I should try George Costanza's the opposite approach?

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Two outsiders up already

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Directions to the worry room please...

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White is a handy forward at best, but Hendo has a touch of class and at least Casboult won't get the best defender. We have better tall backs than tall forwards at the CFC at the moment.

White and Hendo can always swap if things go awry at either end.

I think Mick has shown this will be the case going forward - he has tried it in a few games so far in the pre-season. It's not a bad option really. Not a good one though either...

The point would just be to have another tall to provide a contest. I think if White and Casboult are up fwd, the hope is that they kick 2-3 between them, and Betts et al kick a bag with some midfielders chiming in too.

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Rowe, Hampson and Casboult should be the prefered options up forward.
White isn't a KP he's third tall at best.
Rowe and Hendo can swap forward defending positions if needed with Casboult or Hampson taking some ruck duties.
The final equation I see is Casboult and Rowe.