Thank you - Mr Speaker.

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What makes you think he's not fit ?

To the rest of the general football public he's just slow.

What is the solution? I know it was only the pre season but against North they ran it out with ease. It seems once we cough the ball up in our forward line a lot of teams take it down the other end without us putting much pressure on. The shit teams will give the ball back to us but others who can maintain possession hurt us. Today we had Mitch and a couple of others blindly bomb it in there and just give the ball away.

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Squid

Shifting all of our numbers on the field back about between 10 and 25 metres depending on position when we are in our forward 50, with the ideal number of blokes sitting in front of those deep marking a man on the last line of defence being 3 or 4. They can have a man too, but the idea would be that they are in front to chop off so that the deeper defenders would be keeping an eye on their man and the space goalside.

It really is about being positionally aware and not overcooking the amount of numbers we have in and around the 50. From there everything falls into place like a jigsaw puzzle even with the slightest bit of training. Setting up a zone is probably one of the easiest things to do in football, we just play a bad numbers game which leaves us not enough margin of error in reading and reacting to the opposition's play.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

We didnt have the matchup for Stanton once Carrots went down. The selection of Brock was a bit odd and contributed to stanton getting the 30 odd.
The loose man bit was handled ok. We used the our spare around the packs to try and get back on top at the clearance. Fair enough tactic i would have thought. It helped us a bit but in the end we were just not playing well enough. A big wow is how you couldnt see that. What would you have done? Put a man on the spare? May have worked but rarely does and in fact when tried in the past just leaves bigger holes on the rebound.
Press was rubbish today. Effort was not there and it was noticable very early in the game that we rarely had numbers at the ball. Something we havent seen this year.

The Dons countered our gameplan with a style of game that has bothered us for years. We either need an adjustment to our plan or get a mix that can execute the plan and still defend the flood/counter tactic that kills us.

Its a long season. We were never going to win them all. This is all part of the fun.

We're 5 years into Ratts gameplan, when are we going to get it right.

I'm just pointing out you don't need to be so adamant that this will be the case, or it must be the case. As you're noting, that kind of pseudo-absolutism should be left to politics.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Does anyone get our List is not young. Our guns are now 24 plus. The future is now.

Maybe todays performance was Rattens game plan ?

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I've seen enough football to know Brock is no good. Yes, I'm adamant he's no good and hope like crazy he's not played again. We played today with a few injuries and a half man down in McLean. We can't make that mistake again.

Seriously, McLean as the sub?

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I hope that Ratts never selects Brock hoping he will play a good game, therefore justifying his bringing him to the club.



O'hAilpin>>>>>>>>>>>McLean

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Last week.

There is a chink in the plan though as there are with other teams plans and some teams are well equiped to take advantage of that chink.

Our strength is winning clearances and contested ball and our plan is built around that. If we show up and play with little effort like today and dont win any clearances and contested ball our run is next to go and from there it is all downhill.

Lyon has the most robust gameplan. Painful to watch but robust nonetheless.

Dont write us off yet though. We will rack up plenty more wins before the halfway mark of this season.

gerry atric
 Post subject: Re: R4: Carlton v Essendon* (post-match discussion)Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:12 pm 

Harry Vallence

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We're 5 years into Ratts gameplan, when are we going to get it right.



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When we are winning his game plan is right and we are flag favorites etc etc... We loose 1 game and everyone is panic mode.
Still very early days and this is a wake up call for the boys to pull their finger out

Well not quite, Gibbs and Kreuzer are only 23 and 22 and Yarran is 21. But i get what you are saying. Our recent draftees have either been injured or simply not up to it so at this stage we dont have a good crop of 20 and under players coming through. That may change if some players such as Mitchell, McCarthy and Bootsma come on.

So 6 weeks then?

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Bringing on McLean, and assigning him a run with role against arguably the best endurance midfielder in the game, then not moving him as Stanton racked up close to 20 touches to half time, reminded me of the time Ponting kept bowling Mick Lewis in that game where the Saffas chased down 400+ to win.

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The writing was on the wall barely minutes into the first quarter. We were moving the ball around like a drilled, skilful unit. But alas, unless you can do it at 100% efficiency, pretty quickly you're going to have to be first to a loose ball or contest with the necessary intensity to win it back. We didn't and doubt crept in. Compounding the issue was our inability to capitalise on our opportunities. Because we continued to be cute with moving the ball around, the mounting pressure from failing to score meant basic skill errors became more prevalent and everything started to snow ball out of control. If we had managed to score a few goals simultaneously by three-quarter time, we may have got some run and confidence and ran over the top of them. But we continued to butcher the ball in front of goal and subsequently capitulated.

We should have been switched on from the start.

My other observations which differ in parts...

Henderson was one of our best. The amount of times he won a 50-50 contest and outplayed his opponent was one of the only positives from the match. The dropped mark was a monumental @#$%&! up, but he had plenty of credit in the bank...an excellent performance. 16 disposals is huge number for a full back - it's probably not a good thing if he's getting the ball that often.

Simpson tried his guts out but cannot be excused for easy misses from set shots and on the run. Same can be said for everyone that had a gettable scoring opportunity. We could've got out a jail and come away with a lacklustre win had we capitalised on our opportunities.

Judd wasn't brilliant, but he was still very, very good.

I thought Curnow was shit last week and shouldn't have played today. Before injuring his shoulder, he was a star in the making. WTF has happened? Now he ambles about, barely making it to the contests and butchers the ball. To lay 1 tackle as our inside mid is pathetic. He should be at the bottom of every pack feeding it out but he cannot even find the footy. Whilst Ellard dropped off late last season, at least he was laying tackles and holding the ball up. If he's fit, he should slot straight back in. He also nails crucial goals which is a valuable asset too.

I cannot understand why Bower's been singled out. He made a couple of mistakes but that's bound to happen down back as much as in the middle or up front. I do agree that he didn't get enough of the footy.

Whilst Kreuzer always tries hard, he would've been disappointed with his output today. At least his contested marking continues to be a positive this year. Duigan, Tuohy and Jamo were hard at the contest but didn't see enough of the ball so too would've been disappointed in their games.

Lucas' disposal is poor. You can see he has an ungainly style of kicking where he has the ball on a 45% to his foot. He also isn't hard enough at the footy. He has to improve.

Jeffy G (my cult hero) and Eddie's "frontal pressure" was down a notch today which was hugely disappointing. 3 tackles between the two of them isn't good enough.

I only noticed Gibbs going to the centre in the last quarter - God I hope I'm wrong?

Yarrans attack on the footy was piss-weak on a couple of occasions. I love him, but like a couple of his teammates I don't understand why he also gets to chose when he feels like attempting to smother. There were a few occasions today like there have been in other weeks where our players could've laid a smother and didn't. Yet why do players like Laidler, Scotland, Simpson, Duigan, Judd, Garlett (I could be missing a few) smother at every opportunity? This should be team standard. It baffles me that when in an opposition player's being corralled and then goes to kick barely a metre away, our players do not even attempt to smother. It's either going to pay off or put the opposition player under enough pressure to miscue the kick.

Robinson was shit and should stick to the basics which he excels at. He should be smashing the contests and packs and feeding the ball out to better users and decision makers. He's getting well ahead of himself to continually think he can throw it on the boot and hit a target. He and Ed butcher it. Carazzo had found his niche playing an inside role and for the most part spotting up short options by hand and foot. Unless it's a thumping kick to an equally opposed contest, these guys should be giving it off at every opportunity.

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I just haven't been able to understand our nominated subs the last two weeks - surely, you want the sub to be an impact player, someone that can add a bit of run, energy, spark or versatility late in a game when everyone else is getting tired.

Do Duigan or McLean provide any of the above? To me, they are both hard-working role players who need either to be played from the start, or not at all. Obviously, last week, as things turned out, our choice of sub didn't matter as the game was under control anyway. And yesterday, we couldn't have foreseen Carrazzo getting injured straight away and McLean having to come in so soon into the game. But what is the point of having a medium-sized defender or a hard-working but slow inside midfielder as the sub? How are either suitable for the role?

I would have thought that our most suitable options for the sub would be blokes like Armfield, Lucas, Tuohy, Thornton, Garlett, even someone like Joseph.

I just find it perplexing...

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