Pretty spot on BKB. I get the feeling they thought they'd have all these gun new kids that they got for nothing who play 20+ games and blitz who they can then trade in 2013,2014+ for the experienced players they need.

What they forgot though is no matter how good your picks might look, stats are that @20% of draftees never play a game and a massive 50% play less than 20 games. So even given the position of their picks, relying on a team of nearly all kids exposes you to the reality that in their case, even despite the early picks, reality is that at least 30% are going to fail. Add to that the fact that unlike experienced teams where you can bring in kids in a measured fashion, they've thrown there's to the wolves.

Given the pure weight of early picks, they can't fail to hit and they have some real superstars. But I don't think they are going to get the results they obviously planned for. And they run the risk of finishing of kids because of the lack of support for them on field.

And I also reckon that they played hardball on trading, offering little to the clubs of the players they were after.

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They can have some of our guys this year.

Hampson for Devon Smith or Taylor Adams

Watson for Matthew Buntine

Not sure I want a player named after pressed lunch meat.

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Have to admit I'mreally worried about Kreuz, and this thread has made some valid points.

Right now he's a bit of a nothing player really, and while it can be argued that injuries have never allowed him a good run at it, do we really think this is a problem that is just going to miraculously disappear?

In the cold light of day, Kreuz right now is:
- A forward who can't take a mark
- A ruckman who is behind Warnock
- A midfielder who is too bulky and slow

The guy should have all the attributes to be one of the elite big men of the competition, either in ruck or forward, but I'm fearing that time is running out for us to see anything near his full potential.

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..i would have thought, that in the cold light of day Krooz is a ruckman, and that is it.. ..he's a very good ruckman, and any disadvantage in regards to rucking is balanced by his around the ground ability.. ..how we are able to use him in concert with Knockers is to be established still, but it's a ruck combo we ought to be working towards.. ..he was rushed back in, but we've seen enough of him playing as a fit ruckman to know he is quality..

..trying to turn him into a KPF won't work, but he can provide a target as a ruck pushing fwd, and also could be dangerous provided we have an established KPF providing direction and presence, which he proved in his 1st couple of seasons while we had Fev..

..and let's be honest, Knockers hasn't proven himself durable, so would you be happy with the alternative rucking solution when [not if] Knockers is injured, AND Krooz is moved on..?..

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Kruezer needs to understand to put the team 1st and stop wanting to play 1st ruck cause that's what he wants!
He needs to bite the bullet and learn to play CHF. He has all the tools but no desire.
Does this and he prospers, does not and well .....
Warnock is our best no.1 tap ruckman and has been since Jacobs left.

The issue is Kruezer is a ruckman, Hampson is a ruckman, Warnock is a ruckman. We can only play ONE.

Not one of them is a forward at any level. Rucks aren't forwards. Its like mids being full backs. Doesn't work!!!!!


..................and for me it's Warnock as No.1 by a mile!

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Kruezer is not a ruckman! Hampson is yes and a better one than Kruezer.

He isn't???

Well we wasted the No.1 pick on the worst CHF in history.

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Why are you always so negative and reactionary?

You complain about the Jacobs trade, yet you suddenly don't rate the player who was the main reason he left. If we traded him and got unders, you probablyt whinge some more.

Kreuzer was our best ruck and ahead of Warnock before he injured his thumb.

He might be an ok CHB....

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Huge Fall from grace from a potential star ruckman to an apparent not so sure perhaps an ok CHB

Wow we are getting desperate now talking about Kruezer being a potential CHB

Short memories on here.. fall from grace?

Kreuz was in great from prior to thumb injury and clearly seen as our no.1 ruck. I think he still is as he offers more in all facets and isn't a one trick pony like Warnock. He was rushed back too soon... why the rush? Why couldn't we play Rowe last night who apart from one quiet game against the crows had been good?

I would trade Warnock before Kreuz.

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youre kidding...... again!!!...

hampson has no idea where he is gunna ruck the ball to.
to me he reminds me of a volleyball player blocking at the net.. come to think of it.. he marks like that too

hampson is seriously limited in his footy prowess.
better ruck than Kreuzer pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

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Not that it has any relevance here, but the only thing I've ever complained with the Jacobs trade is how we were reamed on it. I welcome you to point out any time I've said anything to the contrary.

And there's nothing "sudden" about my worries about Kreuz at all. In fact I've been very supportive and patient of him for a long time. I just think people have every right to worry about his long-term future, and right now I don't know how he fits into things.

If this is "negative and reactionary" then I shudder to think what you think of others on here.

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..Krooz is a quality 1st Ruck, and with the amount of games that Knockers' misses, he's just as likely to play main ruck as Knockers is..

..he has plenty of desire, and is not a player to sulk and let his form drop due to not playing in his preferred position.. ..it's just he does not have the KPF smarts, either at CHF or FF.. ..he's always been a ruck, and is an onballer due to his footy nous for working with midfielders.. ..it's just like thinking a tall KPF/KPD can make it as a ruckman, cos 'they have the attributes'.. ..it's an understanding of the position which Krooz lacks..

..in regards to Knockers being our best ruck since Jacobs left, i reckon i can name more influential games from Krooz in that time period, than you can for Knockers.. .... ..and this includes him rehabbing and recovering from the acl..

..Knockers wins more taps than Krooz, but unless i'm mistaken, i'm fairly sure they're about the same for hitout to adv percentages.. ....and the majority of players that have comeback from an ACL have for the most part said it took them a year, to year and a half to be right back to their best after returning from their ACL.. ..and pre-thumb, Krooz's 2013 form showed that he was.. ..he was running free, jumping, leaping high in the ruck, great first touch below his knees, he fumbled less than our top mids.. ..was crunching players in his tackles, when others were weak with theirs.. .... ..i can remember games where Knockers has had 2 possessions.. ..2.. ..you can get as many hitout as you like, but 2 touches for a game.. ..c'mon.. ... ..even Krooz as obviously hindered, and on top of that played out of position, could manage for than 2 touches..

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