Probably the opposite on this site. There would be far more just saying he was just having a night out.

Our own cop it far worse here.

I'm not commenting on this in isolation.

But this year there have been way too many whispers for my liking about what is going on socially with the senior players at the club. I consider a whisper from Josh Kaplan as good as gospel.

I don't think we've adapted to the culture of modern AFL football. Culture wise we're still a VFL-side in the early 1980's. We reckon we can drink harder and party harder than anyone else and that we'll still win a flag. It won't happen. I agree that this incident is just letting off steam at the end of a season, but it all adds up with what we've been hearing during the year (about players other than Fev too). As I say, it isn't an isolated incident. And a problem is that some of the guys in charge actually are from the 1980's... they know no other way.

I just wish the club would deal with it properly rather than sweeping it under the carpet. Suspending two younger players and a senior player for one week isn't dealing with the issue with any real gusto.

whisper = gossip molly.

Not when I hear exactly the same things and don't know Josh from a bar of soap...

Gossip tends to do the rounds. You often find one of the town gossips has much the same info as another's. It's all still gossip.

pay me 500+k/year and I'd satisfy all those requirements easily (and not just for the grand final but for the entire season) - In fact, I'm pretty sure if I was paid 100k, wouldnt have much of an issue satisfying all those requirements either

Brownlow = gossip
Ireland = gossip
Window = gossip
Dry Cleaners = gossip
Fire extinguisher = gossip
Fev says he should not drink = gossip

gossip, gossip,gossip.

Correct. It's human nature to talk about other people's lives. It makes certain people feel like they're big and important.

Problem is none of that stuff is gossip.

yawn

im no party boy but i dont meet those standards

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Maybe you should get your hands on a dictionary some time.

That's correct, we haven't even got started on the gossip. If the gossip was talked about we'd need another 100 pages.

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Fev says he was so drunk he can't remember what happened - that would worry me if I was a Carlton supporter and it would worry me more if I was Fev. I have been in that state once or twice a long time ago and I wondered whether, despite not being able to remember what happened, my moral compass still applied to my behaviour. I don't have a good answer to this but it's deeply concerning enough to not put myself in that state.

He's yours for pick 2?

gos·sip [ góssip ]


noun (plural gos·sips)

Definition:

1. conversation about personal matters: conversation about the personal details of other people's lives, whether rumor or fact, especially when malicious


2. casual conversation: informal conversation or writing about recent and often personal events


3. habitual talker: somebody who habitually discusses the personal details of others' lives

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Guilty as charged.

If it affects his performance on the field it bothers me.

If it affects our sponsorship arrangements it bothers me.

If it gets him axed from The Footy Show I say good - that show sucks.

If it makes everyone realise (if they hadn't already) that he's a bit of a dope I couldn't care one way or another. I really don't give a damn what other people think of Fevola or any of our players. Just because Didak's a flower I don't presume that my Collingwood supporting friends are flower. My ego's solid enough to not rise and fall based on the actions of a footballer who's never heard of me. A large percentage of footballers are flower - it's not why I watch them running around chasing a bit of leather. Why should I care what he does when he's not playing?

If Fevola was rude or offensive to anyone that night they're issues for him and the person involved.

Not me.

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In all serious, I think Swanny, should go get the tapes of street talk off Channel 9 and any other footage.

Sit him down with the leadership group and directors.

Press Play on the video player and say 'seeing you can't remember, this was you on Brownlow Nite, do you think this is acceptable and what will you do about it?'

If there is anything more embarrassing in life, it would be watching your self as a drunk tool in front of your bosses and fellow players.

That would be 10 times worse then missing a few games of football.

Thats exactly what I would be doing with him.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

It would have to be done weekly because he has a tendancy to forget.