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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:28 pm 
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The common belief that the ground at Gold Coast Stadium is big seems to be incorrect. The dimensions are apparently 160m x 134m (cf. MCG 160m x 141m & ES 159.5m x 128.8m). Subiaco is 175m x 122m.


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 Post subject: Judd vs Pav...
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:40 pm 
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Lots of Media Hype re. who'll come out the winner on Saturday night.

eg:

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=140173

I have to admit, I've not been following pav's form much. Should I be worried?

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:47 pm 
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Link is up for all you magnet monkeys out there: http://www.footymagnets.com/carltonfremantle.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Judd vs Pav...
PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Even though it being forced due to Abletts injury I've made the Pav my dream team captain this week.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Stupid question, but who do Freo actually have for a forward line ??? If Pav plays through the midfield then who will be their focal point ???

What am I getting at ??? How about sticking Bower on Pav and just giving him the freedom to run with him all game (In the midfield and when he goes forward). I think Bower has reasonable endurance so he should be able to run with him reasonably well, it will give him some good exposure up the field a bit, and he will be able to run off Pav when he gets the opportunity, further developing this side of his game ................

Sure Waite could do the same role, but I like the flexability and rebound we get having Waite play back loose.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:12 pm 
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Pav playing in the midfield would be a win to Carlton...

Freo considers rookies...


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:17 pm 
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coryne wrote:
Stupid question, but who do Freo actually have for a forward line ??? If Pav plays through the midfield then who will be their focal point ???



Medhurst and Farmer will kill us this week. We don't really have a decent match up for either of them. :)

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:22 pm 
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coryne wrote:
Stupid question, but who do Freo actually have for a forward line ??? If Pav plays through the midfield then who will be their focal point ???

What am I getting at ??? How about sticking Bower on Pav and just giving him the freedom to run with him all game (In the midfield and when he goes forward). I think Bower has reasonable endurance so he should be able to run with him reasonably well, it will give him some good exposure up the field a bit, and he will be able to run off Pav when he gets the opportunity, further developing this side of his game ................

Sure Waite could do the same role, but I like the flexability and rebound we get having Waite play back loose.


Tarrant. Oh...


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:37 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
I really hope Ratts doesnt bring Hadley in to run with Pavlich....

I really hope Hadley gets used to guard the centre


Well he won't be able to run with the Pav - the only thing he can do is use his big(ish) body to get between Pav and the ball at stoppages. Hasleby is back in touch too and is a great clearance player.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:51 pm 
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spartak wrote:
full ratten press conference today - http://sportal.com.au/mediaplayer/audio ... rence-5248


Ratts didn't sound over-enamoured of the idea of playing Hadley, and it wasn't his idea to play Hads on Pav. Bentley sounds a likely omission. Was asked if Harts was a chance down back - Ratts said no flat out, but Aussie is.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:19 pm 
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Joseph and Armfield to run with Medhurst and Farmer. Our players have more speed to get to the contest and therefore can at worst move the ball on and stop their oppenents from doing so. This is at worst a break even outcome - hence no gain for Freo from these key players.

In Pav plays n the mid fleld (lets say agains Judd and maybe wins on the day against this player) then who kicks the goals to win the game - assuming that 15 + goals would be needed to win. Who mans up on Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, et al. Freo are down on experienced mid fielders hence they are thinking about younger players (up to 5 from recent reports)...

Do you think that there is no benefit from hard bodies and experienced players? If this is a true beief than why would you not not win a game by bringing into a team new blood each week? Reality determines that experience does matter. Having a body hardening to combat does matter (else why were not the same players now being considered thought of for earlier games when Freo did need a win to get their season on track). If they are now being considered when all other options are on the injured list - then we have Freo's anser to this question - They are desparate.

So the question is put forward (as it is every week) - who will win in the md field >

Sandilands may well win in the ruck - but for 4 quarters? Who will win the disposable ball coming from the stoppgaes? Here Carlton have a capacity to win the contest through hard attack on the ball and quick hands to release it to running players.

This game is not done and dusted but the odds favour the boys in blue.

It is an issue that the Coach has addressed this week --will the Carlton players bring their focus to getting the hard ball and competing hard enough when they do not. This committment determines the result of the game.

It is a function of clean hands then tackle, etc.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:27 pm 
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Sam Sunshine wrote:
Joseph and Armfield to run with Medhurst and Farmer. Our players have more speed to get to the contest and therefore can at worst move the ball on and stop their oppenents from doing so. This is at worst a break even outcome - hence no gain for Freo from these key players.

In Pav plays n the mid fleld (lets say agains Judd and maybe wins on the day against this player) then who kicks the goals to win the game - assuming that 15 + goals would be needed to win. Who mans up on Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, et al. Freo are down on experienced mid fielders hence they are thinking about younger players (up to 5 from recent reports)...

Do you think that there is no benefit from hard bodies and experienced players? If this is a true beief than why would you not not win a game by bringing into a team new blood each week? Reality determines that experience does matter. Having a body hardening to combat does matter (else why were not the same players now being considered thought of for earlier games when Freo did need a win to get their season on track). If they are now being considered when all other options are on the injured list - then we have Freo's anser to this question - They are desparate.

So the question is put forward (as it is every week) - who will win in the md field >

Sandilands may well win in the ruck - but for 4 quarters? Who will win the disposable ball coming from the stoppgaes? Here Carlton have a capacity to win the contest through hard attack on the ball and quick hands to release it to running players.

This game is not done and dusted but the odds favour the boys in blue.

It is an issue that the Coach has addressed this week --will the Carlton players bring their focus to getting the hard ball and competing hard enough when they do not. This committment determines the result of the game.

It is a function of clean hands then tackle, etc.



Um you do realise that was a joke ........... Farmer has retired and Medhurst is at Collingwood ........


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:31 pm 
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Sam Sunshine wrote:
Joseph and Armfield to run with Medhurst and Farmer. Our players have more speed to get to the contest and therefore can at worst move the ball on and stop their oppenents from doing so. This is at worst a break even outcome - hence no gain for Freo from these key players.



Yeah I reckon we should be able to cover Medhurst and Farmer except I'd put Teague on Medhurst and probably go with Franchina on Farmer.... :sly: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:35 pm 
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In Sam's defence, who actually goes out of their way to pay attention to the Dockers anyway?


Their sole reason for existence is to attempt to beat the WCE twice a year.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:37 pm 
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Ryan8024 wrote:
In Sam's defence, who actually goes out of their way to pay attention to the Dockers anyway?


Their sole reason for existence is to attempt to beat the WCE twice a year.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:38 pm 
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coryne wrote:
Sam Sunshine wrote:
Joseph and Armfield to run with Medhurst and Farmer. Our players have more speed to get to the contest and therefore can at worst move the ball on and stop their oppenents from doing so. This is at worst a break even outcome - hence no gain for Freo from these key players.

In Pav plays n the mid fleld (lets say agains Judd and maybe wins on the day against this player) then who kicks the goals to win the game - assuming that 15 + goals would be needed to win. Who mans up on Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, et al. Freo are down on experienced mid fielders hence they are thinking about younger players (up to 5 from recent reports)...

Do you think that there is no benefit from hard bodies and experienced players? If this is a true beief than why would you not not win a game by bringing into a team new blood each week? Reality determines that experience does matter. Having a body hardening to combat does matter (else why were not the same players now being considered thought of for earlier games when Freo did need a win to get their season on track). If they are now being considered when all other options are on the injured list - then we have Freo's anser to this question - They are desparate.

So the question is put forward (as it is every week) - who will win in the md field >

Sandilands may well win in the ruck - but for 4 quarters? Who will win the disposable ball coming from the stoppgaes? Here Carlton have a capacity to win the contest through hard attack on the ball and quick hands to release it to running players.

This game is not done and dusted but the odds favour the boys in blue.

It is an issue that the Coach has addressed this week --will the Carlton players bring their focus to getting the hard ball and competing hard enough when they do not. This committment determines the result of the game.

It is a function of clean hands then tackle, etc.



Um you do realise that was a joke ........... Farmer has retired and Medhurst is at Collingwood ........


If they stand agog and continue to observe young Alex Duncan take mark after mark they're in for a frightful walloping
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Who's staying where on the Goldie?
Will more than likely come down for the game with the kids and best not drive home.
Anyone staying around Southport?
Regards Pedro.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:12 pm 
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Indie wrote:
The common belief that the ground at Gold Coast Stadium is big seems to be incorrect. The dimensions are apparently 160m x 134m (cf. MCG 160m x 141m & ES 159.5m x 128.8m). Subiaco is 175m x 122m.


It is a lot more open and not as protected as most stadiums - so if it is windy it can be difficult to score -

An open ground always seems bigger

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:21 pm 
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pedro wrote:
Who's staying where on the Goldie?
Will more than likely come down for the game with the kids and best not drive home.
Anyone staying around Southport?
Regards Pedro.

Broadbeach, just around the corner from pacific fair/casino. Handy with the free shuttle buses running to and from the game leaving from pacific fair.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:18 am 
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I have a feeling there might be a shock omission/inclusion :thumbsup:


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