most impressive for me this game was the continual development of the lesser lights

grigg - one of our best players with every possession hitting a target. Did enough for me to give him votes in the MVP.
setanta - easily his best game for the club - great run/dash
bower - more than held his own, again continually getting better
russell - another hard working game. Once he gets his goal kicking right then he will be a valuable part of the forward structure
edwards - solid game
wiggins - another tough, solid game
kreuzer/hampson - competed well (as opposed to the ruckman that shall not be named). They both need a couple more seasons to get bigger/stronger though
bentick - Possibly the best game I've seen from him.
gibbs - continuing to impress, work hard. Starting to see a few more long kicks from him rather than short options which will be good for the long term development on the team.

Also impressive for mine
waite - had him as BOG despite a couple of dispoal errors and the rough hit that is likely to see him miss a week or two. A few good spoils, a power of mopping up work and run up the ground
Fev - I'm pretty sure I've been one of Fev's biggest critics over the years and given his horrible kicking game one might expect him to be bagged a fair bit. Did some good work providing options up the ground and in setting up several shots on goal through direct chasing and providing constests. Not too fussed about the shots on goal that didnt make the distance (which he would normally do easily) or the freak soccer goal - its the chases, contestes, second efforts that are important to me.
fisher - maligned the past few weeks but a welcome return to form. Kicking was poor (though is normally better) - still had about 5 shots on goal and was an important option up the ground

Pro.
We defeated Freo by the biggest margin in their last four games which included Geelong and the Doggies. IMO a good thing. Freo can play, but so can we.
Defence, stood proud in the undermanned stakes.
GIBBS

Against.
Not on FOX/Radio...had to wait for highlights etc etc
The Dome..get us out of there...go the MCG !!

On a side note I had a feeling I was in for a good one when my SANFL team won Friday night knocking off Norwood, and even better holding them to a pitiful 1.3.9 ...

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PRO'S:
Bentick - i really rate this bloke... tries his guts out!!! If only a few of the other blokes had his determination. Top game!
Simpson - This bloke runs runs and runs... tackles well too... under rated by a lot of people on here
Bower - I must say i was sus about this bloke but he is becoming a solid defender
Setanta - MUST BE PLAYED IN DEFENCE... its easier for him to just be given a job, follow your man and punch the footy... i love his determination... very good game
Gibbs - His tackling is unreal! Anyone can run around and get cheap kicks... but this kid does the hard stuff... he will be a star
Carrazzo on Farmer... very good shut down job and found the ball himself... good game

CON's: We didnt bury them as i had money on the Blues over 39.5pts
Our entries into forward 50... woeful
Fevola's attitude.... this bloke really worries me when he is having a bad game... a few times i watched him and he just stood there and didnt lead. I love him but his blasting team mates isnt any good for the team.

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Matty Kruzer you star!

sjabc, do they have super goals in the SANFL

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

i noticed that fev didn't lead all the time, and just kept telling the players t kick it over, but Freo had a wall of freo docker's infront of him. Freo flooded and Fev found it hard to actually find room to lead.

I counted about 6 occasions where we kicked it to fev, and there was always a man cutting the kick. In one instance it was palmer and Fev waved at bentick telling him to not be in the area, because it was his man that cut the kick.

I don't have a problem with fev, he still had 5 set shots at goal in which some didn't make the distance. His kicking was off, but we know he won't do that too often.

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a very accurate flying bomb.
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Con: Nobody has put Pfeiffer's goal on youtube with a sappy Wonder Years monologue as the soundtrack.

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Perhaps not the same position over the full 4 quarters but he has been given the leadup forward role more often than not. Now that Wiggo is back in the team he tends to do that role and Jordy may be given a different task from time to time.

With Jordan he has simply been given decent amount of game time to settle and feeel apart of the 22. He doesn't think he is just making up the numbers. He knows if he makes a mistake he won't be benched as he was in 2007.

He can play in a more mentally relaxed fashion because he is actually enjoying having the ball in his hands. He is gaining confidence in his body and his ability to win the contested ball. His team-mates see the improvement and they are happy to use him. Last year a couple of the older guys just wouldn't kick it to him. Ratts is showing faith in him and as a result Jordy is on the way up. Each game he is making a bigger contribution to the team work ethic.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

This is something a decent Player Development Program should address - it actually should be the first thing it addresses.

This sort of crap belongs in the schoolyard and in under age junior football - but should not be acceptable or tolerated at Senior AFL level.

You look up and see a Navy Blue Jumper - that should be your target.

Trust in your team mates, trust in the training.

No wonder some players get "Depression" and all the do gooders and nay sayers want to blame us posters on Internet Forums for their mental fragility - blame the senior players on AFL lists who treat there juniors with such contempt by not kicking it too them - is it any wonder they start to doubt themselves and have confidence issues.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

That's fantastic and I applaud both JR and Ratts.

...can the same be said for Setanta?

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Budzy said:


That's a good question to ask Cazz Budzy! What I really hated about 2007 was that Setanta was doing a fair job at full back at the start of the season, and as soon as injuries hit and Pagan realised Ackland couldn't ruck, all of a sudden Setanta was the biggest swingman in our side since Kouta in 2000. That's ok when you aren't trying to learn the game, but when you are then it is all a bit extreme.

I'm not surprised Setanta is finding his feet when being left as a key defender. The big question is though... what will Ratten do with him when Thornton and Jamison come back? Will Setanta become a wildcard again?

Given that the most un-natural backman in our backline is Waite, it's strange that he isn't the first player, thrown around the ground.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Well he's currently playing 4 quarters every game so I say Yes.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

..when our other defenders come back (thornts and jamey/walks?but will be used in defense), i reckon the big Setant' should stay back, and release Waitey.. ..he's not as tight-checking as Setanta is, and Setanta is about as athletic as waitey is too.. ..use Waite as a wingman, HFF.. ..better yet, with our CGF woe4s play him there with license to charge into the midfield..

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Cazz what are the coaching staff doing about his goal kicking? Is he receiving specialist coaching or is it just seen as something he needs to work through himself (and if so why?).

His confidence will soar even more when he starts converting a few more of those opportunities his hard work has created.

That just makes too much sense. I'd love to see Satant stay back. He reads the play so well and thinks ahead. He makes mistakes sometimes, but he has a crack.

Waitey should be a lead-up CHF ala Johnno Brown with Fish as a FP or wingman. It amazes me that Ratts doesn't think Setant is a key defender type .

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He's working double time. I think he just has the putting yips. He'll sort it.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

That's great. By this rate we may have an AFL player by 2012.

Improv is Thursday nights

Regards Cazzesman

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There's so much I could say...

It's a really qoog question Kahuna, was wondering the same thing myself.

With a fully fit squad, and on the assumption that Setanta continues to play well at CHB, what is our best structure?

Three talls: Jamison, Setanta, Waite or Thornton.
Three mids: Bower, 2 of Scotland / Walker / Grigg etc

That means if Jamison plays FB (and it's all his at the moment), Setanta CHB (still up for grabs, but he's doing nicely now)...is it Thornton or Waite as the third tall?

If Thornton, that releases Waite to play forward (or on a wing). If Waite, then what of Thornton?

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!