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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:18 pm 
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I'm liking the very low key approach Bolts and the club seem to be taking. Its the time of the year for lots of fluff pieces, but I'm actually somewhat relieved to see what seems to be a definite strategy to take a low profile. Maybe its to get us used to lower expectations.

Or are others annoyed that we haven't seen more of Bolts ?


I don't think it is by design. I would think the club would want those fluffy stories and as much positive news as possible to help build membership and hype. Last year we had a new coach /era so we were the talk of the town for a short while but this year we are not a sexy club :smoking:

You can also add the womens team taking a lot of the spotlight off the mens team which has been a breathe of fresh air.


Breast thing to happen to Carlton since BB and SOS walked in the door.

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nek minnit....

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/c ... ubu87.html


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:41 pm 
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Excellent! :clap:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:47 pm 
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"Performance density"

There is an interview with Bolton which has been emailed to members.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:14 pm 
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Effes wrote:
"Performance density"

There is an interview with Bolton which has been emailed to members.



http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2017- ... don-bolton


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Some of those senior guys today, they were brought in to be competitive in order to support the kids.

We know they're not matchwinners, but if Bolton can't produce competitiveness from them then that's a serious worry. They were insipid.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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I had an interesting chat to former player who thinks far to much emphasis placed on players becoming good men than being mongrels on the field and game development

To much fluff fluff
Not enough tough tough were his words


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Some of those senior guys today, they were brought in to be competitive in order to support the kids.

We know they're not matchwinners, but if Bolton can't produce competitiveness from them then that's a serious worry. They were insipid.


In the 2016 off season that is only Plamer and Smedts. Palmer is a known quantity. Smedts was a highly regarded junior but will have to perform a lot better than he has so far to impress.

It's the pre-Bolton seniors who really let us down. Thomas should never ever ever enter our defensive 50. White was a disaster from start to finish. Roweful. And Ed Curnow overall subpar.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Sakc Bolton.


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No sack mckay and craig first


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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No sack mckay and craig first


Really?

Don't want to sack the board first?

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
No sack mckay and craig first


Really?

Don't want to sack the board first?



This is the bolton thread :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
No sack mckay and craig first


Really?

Don't want to sack the board first?



This is the bolton thread :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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I had an interesting chat to former player who thinks far to much emphasis placed on players becoming good men than being mongrels on the field and game development

To much fluff fluff
Not enough tough tough were his words

And how does this former player know that this isn't the right way to coach?

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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moshe25 wrote:
trublu wrote:
I had an interesting chat to former player who thinks far to much emphasis placed on players becoming good men than being mongrels on the field and game development

To much fluff fluff
Not enough tough tough were his words

And how does this former player know that this isn't the right way to coach?



Using the recent GF winning coaches as a test sample.

Clarkson & Beveridge are tuff tuff, no fluff fluff at all.
Longmire - tuff tuff all the way.
Scott and Bomber thompson - tuff tuff with a litlle bit of love love, but yes, mostly tuff tuff with little to no fluff fluff.


Therefore; in this business there is no room to win things with the fluff fluff approach.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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typical of some carlton supporters to start questioning the coach after one season and a couple of practice game losses.
it will be very interesting to see how the club responds during season proper when the inevitable heat comes from media and supporters alike.
i for one think we have been pretty clear for a change in the direction we are going in...this is evidenced in the addition of 30 new players in 2 seasons and the most players aged <21 on any list.
let's hope we stay the course and give Bolton and co a good crack at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:38 am 
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doofdoof wrote:
typical of some carlton supporters to start questioning the coach after one season and a couple of practice game losses.
it will be very interesting to see how the club responds during season proper when the inevitable heat comes from media and supporters alike.
i for one think we have been pretty clear for a change in the direction we are going in...this is evidenced in the addition of 30 new players in 2 seasons and the most players aged <21 on any list.
let's hope we stay the course and give Bolton and co a good crack at it.


In reality, AFL is now an entertainment business. You have to entertain to stay in business, and, like Sydney fans, Carlton fans need to be entertained or they won't 'buy in'.

If the likes of Rowe Casboult Thomas et al, who have a proven record of unentertaining/deflating football, keep being 1st choice players rather than used only when absolutely required, Carlton will keep losing ground.

It's not an easy situation for Bolton, but being conservative with the younger guys (if that is what he chooses to do) is the wrong thing to do at Carlton.

Play the kids until they're exhausted and need a rest (eg. 4 weeks in... 2 weeks out) and keep the exposure of the great deflators to a minimum.


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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
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Rexy wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
typical of some carlton supporters to start questioning the coach after one season and a couple of practice game losses.
it will be very interesting to see how the club responds during season proper when the inevitable heat comes from media and supporters alike.
i for one think we have been pretty clear for a change in the direction we are going in...this is evidenced in the addition of 30 new players in 2 seasons and the most players aged <21 on any list.
let's hope we stay the course and give Bolton and co a good crack at it.


In reality, AFL is now an entertainment business. You have to entertain to stay in business, and, like Sydney fans, Carlton fans need to be entertained or they won't 'buy in'.

If the likes of Rowe Casboult Thomas et al, who have a proven record of unentertaining/deflating football, keep being 1st choice players rather than used only when absolutely required, Carlton will keep losing ground.

It's not an easy situation for Bolton, but being conservative with the younger guys (if that is what he chooses to do) is the wrong thing to do at Carlton.

Play the kids until they're exhausted and need a rest (eg. 4 weeks in... 2 weeks out) and keep the exposure of the great deflators to a minimum.


I am going to refer to them as bandits through out the coming season. Stealing time from our club and a lasting legacy of probably the worst recruiting period in AFL history. They must go at season's end. Started with Elliot's narcissistic ways and all downhill from there. Bolton and his coaching/recruiting team are the future. They have to be. I hate seeing us so unsuccessful.

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 Post subject: Re: Coach Brendon Bolton
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:29 am 
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Rexy wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
typical of some carlton supporters to start questioning the coach after one season and a couple of practice game losses.
it will be very interesting to see how the club responds during season proper when the inevitable heat comes from media and supporters alike.
i for one think we have been pretty clear for a change in the direction we are going in...this is evidenced in the addition of 30 new players in 2 seasons and the most players aged <21 on any list.
let's hope we stay the course and give Bolton and co a good crack at it.


In reality, AFL is now an entertainment business. You have to entertain to stay in business, and, like Sydney fans, Carlton fans need to be entertained or they won't 'buy in'.

If the likes of Rowe Casboult Thomas et al, who have a proven record of unentertaining/deflating football, keep being 1st choice players rather than used only when absolutely required, Carlton will keep losing ground.

It's not an easy situation for Bolton, but being conservative with the younger guys (if that is what he chooses to do) is the wrong thing to do at Carlton.

Play the kids until they're exhausted and need a rest (eg. 4 weeks in... 2 weeks out) and keep the exposure of the great deflators to a minimum.


i think they did play the kids yesterday. 7 yet to make their AFL debut, 3 with less than 20 games between them & another 7 who have played between 18-39 games. that's a fair bit of inexperience going into one game..

Unfortunately as you say all of this inexperience was supported by the likes of Rowe, White, Thomas and Palmer. i agree they are deflators and need to come in only to give the kids a rest from time to time.
Hopefully many of the same kids can be better supported/lead by Simpson, Docherty, Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Wright and a fully fit Cripps.


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