Our new coach - 2016: Brendon Bolton - 25/8/15

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:24 pm

let me clarify - its not a done deal YET - so em is correct

but i would be very very very surprised if he doesn't get the job from what i have seen first hand and from what i discussed today

emtwenty · **Joined:** Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 7074

Punter22 wrote:

emtwenty wrote:

this is peak meltdown material for something that hasn't happened yet.

No faith in grro? He seems very sure.

I'm sure between his mail and yours, someone could offer you guys a success story of Barker's. He must have racked up plenty after five years.

I have faith in Grro.

Even if it is odds on to happen - this is still a hilarious meltdown.

Punter22 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:47 pm

All I'd love to hear is improvement delivered by him to a group of players. Shouldn't be hard after five years. You're right, I am being hysterical, aren't I?

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

In the scheme of things, none of the four candidates are going to win us a flag, such is the state of the club. Ergo, the difference between Barker and the other 3 may well be 2-3 less wins over the 2 and a bit years he'll probably get at it.

Don't know why they don't just raffle the senior coaching gig each week for next year and let Edelsten coach us for a bit, provided he actually ponies up the coin?

MPH78 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:55 pm

I'm genuinely curious how many of the candidates saw us up close and said no thanks.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:55 pm

Punter22 wrote:

All I'd love to hear is improvement delivered by him to a group of players. Shouldn't be hard after five years. You're right, I am being hysterical, aren't I?

i think thats a bit hard to judge , well especially the malthouse era anyway.... malthouse didn't really let any of the assistant coaches have any autonomy or decision making - it was all mick's way or the highway - 'here's my mantra - go and implement it' the players clearly didn't respond to this method very well at any level.

ratten wasnt as bad but very much a control freak also

barker is only really shining now with the opportunity - graham's confidence comes to mind , murphy has improved, holman... yeah not much i can think of.

I dont though think the past 5 years are a true judge of what barker would be like in a head job (teehee)

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:57 pm

The Rhino wrote:

In the scheme of things, none of the four candidates are going to win us a flag, such is the state of the club. Ergo, the difference between Barker and the other 3 may well be 2-3 less wins over the 2 and a bit years he'll probably get at it.

Don't know why they don't just raffle the senior coaching gig each week for next year and let Edelsten coach us for a bit, provided he actually ponies up the coin?

he actually would

pretty good debt reduction strategy

camel · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:58 pm

I'm going to the worry room. :lol:

Punter22 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:06 pm

grrofunger wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

All I'd love to hear is improvement delivered by him to a group of players. Shouldn't be hard after five years. You're right, I am being hysterical, aren't I?

i think thats a bit hard to judge , well especially the malthouse era anyway.... malthouse didn't really let any of the assistant coaches have any autonomy or decision making - it was all mick's way or the highway - 'here's my mantra - go and implement it' the players clearly didn't respond to this method very well at any level.

ratten wasnt as bad but very much a control freak also

barker is only really shining now with the opportunity - graham's confidence comes to mind , murphy has improved, holman... yeah not much i can think of.

I dont though think the past 5 years are a true judge of what barker would be like in a head job (teehee)

fair response, grro, thanks.

I still don't get a hell of a lot out of it except the players enjoy not playing for Mick anymore.

If it is going to be him: be done with it and own the decision- announce it now. You'd like to think then there'd be no excuses for the players checking out on their coach which he acknowledged some of them have done now.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:08 pm

fair to say many of them won't be here next year

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

verbs wrote:

Need to re title this the drama queens thread.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18022

grrofunger wrote:

It's his.

They are just working out how to sell it.

grrofunger wrote:

let me clarify - its not a done deal YET - so em is correct

but i would be very very very surprised if he doesn't get the job from what i have seen first hand and from what i discussed today

Plain as mud to me. :lol:

Lets not go into a panic. The process is still in place and a decision has not been made.

TomAlvin'sWig · **Joined:** Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:11 pm **Posts:** 1654

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

..the club needed barker.. ....they have embarked upon the 'draft will save us' route, and barker will do what's right for the club.. ..quid pro quo..

..I don't know why people are shocked.. ..barker has said he is doing what is right for the club.. ..the club has said these results won't hurt his prospects.. ..done deal..

..he has also shown us he can coach modern footy, and get the players competing strongly.. ..after proving this, he is coaching now for picks.. ..he did his audition, and passed the test, now onto to the dirty business of a rebuild.. ..he is already sorting out the competitors from the fakers..

I agree. Seems to be working closely with SOS on sitting out who stays who goes.

I think his ruthless edge has shown through, which is vital. If he gets the gig it will be about who he gets in to assist, and whether he has a say in it.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7182

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

..the club needed barker.. ....they have embarked upon the 'draft will save us' route, and barker will do what's right for the club.. ..quid pro quo..

..I don't know why people are shocked.. ..barker has said he is doing what is right for the club.. ..the club has said these results won't hurt his prospects.. ..done deal..

..he has also shown us he can coach modern footy, and get the players competing strongly.. ..after proving this, he is coaching now for picks.. ..he did his audition, and passed the test, now onto to the dirty business of a rebuild.. ..he is already sorting out the competitors from the fakers..

i hope you're right. i mean it's totally plausible what you're saying.

our gampelan noticeably changed after the port game, when incidentally its rumoured sos had an epic meltdown because he's all about the tank and weitering.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:40 am

Blue Vain wrote:

grrofunger wrote:

It's his.

They are just working out how to sell it.

grrofunger wrote:

let me clarify - its not a done deal YET - so em is correct

but i would be very very very surprised if he doesn't get the job from what i have seen first hand and from what i discussed today

Plain as mud to me. :lol:

Lets not go into a panic. The process is still in place and a decision has not been made.

it pretty much has been made, but no pen to paper

Bluey44 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:28 am

MPH78 wrote:

I'm genuinely curious how many of the candidates saw us up close and said no thanks.

This.
Why wouldn't candidates want the opportunity?
Are they so confident they'll get better offers?

What about Sumich? Royal? Tudor?
Still waiting around for someone to come knocking ...

What about Bassett and Burns?
Did they knock us back?

Did we at least talk to crazy Vossy or the sandwich eater??

This panel is starting to stink.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18022

Bluey44 wrote:

This panel is starting to stink.

Why is it starting to stink?

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

Just quietly I don't reckon anyone knows who the new coach will be at this stage, and if Barker gets it then he will have been the outstanding candidate. Trigg is trying to move the club away from where it has been and the mindset it has had, so he and others will recognise that appointing an insider will be viewed suspiciously. I have no idea how good a coach any of the likely candidates are and I suspect there are more in contention than JB, BB, Dew and Lloyd.

For the first time in decades I feel we are going through a reasonable process and I have some confidence that we are heading in a better direction than before. Yes I wd like a new committee, but I am not planning on running and I suspect neither are any other TC posters so not much we can do there.

I actually think Trigg appears to be a CEO who understands what has to happen at Carlton, let's hope he gets the right support.

At the moment SOS is the most important guy, as we need talent on our list. I am worried that he got the job by being ex Carlton, a mate of the pres (sound familiar) and having assembled a good list at GWS, which I could have done with the picks they had. Let's hope he gets us the next Jeremy Cameron and not the next Jono O'Rourke.

club29 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:53 am

Could they sign Barker as coach and Lloyd for a different role?

camel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:58 am

club29 wrote:

Could they sign Barker as coach and Lloyd for a different role?

What you mean the former to cut the oranges and the latter to do the coaching? :razz:

In all seriousness, I do understand where gerry atric is coming from in the post above. I'm just exercising my right to be an irrational supporter. :donk:

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