Only 6 players in the AFL average more marks on the lead this year than Charlie. Despite him being one out against multiple tall defenders.
He takes more on the lead than Jamie Elliott, Jeremy Cameron, Naughtin, Larkey, Mihocek, Sam Darcy, Taylor Walker plus plenty of others. Only 2 players in the AFL who have played more than 2 games average more offensive 1v1 wins than Charlie. For a bloke who had zero pre-season and has had to carry the forward line all year on his own back, I think he's done a huge job.

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And now we can enjoy a further three months of intense speculation - media's having a field day with it this week.

I try not to get too caught up in the AFL rumour mill, because it's a snake eating its own tail and 90% of these rumours start because a bloke who knows a bloke posts his version of the news on a website somewhere.

If we decided to move on from some of our bigger-name players, then so be it. As long as we can get the sort of players we need to play a modern, successful brand of footy.

(However, I'd be very disappointed if Silvagni left.)

The thing that shits me about the Curnow situation is that the fact it's Gold Coast; which tells you a bit about Charlie's attitude to footy.

I just went back and our top players in the PF loss were
- Walsh
- Docherty
- McGovern
- Newman
- Marchbank

How can it tell you anything about Charlies attitude if 90% of rumours are bullshit?
At the moment it's an unsubstantiated fishing exercise. I'd rather pass judgement when I know what's real.

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As A GENERAL RULE most footy rumours are bullshit.

IF THIS ONE HAS ANY TRUTH TO IT the thing that WOULD shit me is the above.

I've capitalised some words to make it clear what I mean.

That's an interesting fact. I still want him to do more leading and less standing in the square.
Charlie looked great leading up the last couple of games. My eye test suggests he should be doing it more than he does.

I'd love to see actual raw numbers to get a picture of his marking opportunities vs marks compared to others. I don't really look at what other players numbers are till someone makes comparisons. I wonder how those named have better stats in one on one's, or pack marking. One would have to say Elliot punches above his weight (height).

The main criticism of Charlie is his tendency to stand in the square and go body on body against taller and heavier opponents, and worse, sometimes the oppo have an extra in close proximity. There's games in the first half season he hasnt moved out of th square much. May have been carrying an injury.

I think if he didn't put his hand up in those unequal contests, players would look for alternatives, or, he could just sprint hard and fast to space. Charlie is mobile for a tall player. He should use that weapon more often...for Carlton.

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Interesting names.
Doc the last one standing. Injury stinks.
Geez a fit Marchy was gold. I know why SOS went for him over Tuohy. Didn't work out.

Its not just the fact the bigger the injury list the greater negative impact for the AFL and VFL teams, but for Carlton it has been the number of quality/ key players missing that really has hurt us since the Prelim.

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Yeah , OK BV I do get that he makes leads but he does a lot of pushing and shoving when he could get on his bike .

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He spends more than enough time on his bike

The decision to let Kennedy go a honest hard working player who would play any role asked of him and to keep Elijah and extended his contract should be enough to cost Austin his job.
Kennedy has basically been playing the Elijah role at Bulldogs kicking 20 goals and averages 23 disposals whilst Elijah is serving the unofficial Wada ban and might never be back.
Poor decisions like this destroy clubs.
You have a core group of players all at similar stages of their lives and you get rid of one and keep the Coke sniffing kid in his place.

How Austin is still in a job on this decision alone is beyond comprehension.

And people question why the players just don't give a shit

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

I have a feeling the Kennedy trade has played a big part in this years output. Players not aligned with coaching group is evident.

After watching HOF the past few weeks, I reckon we won that trade. Maybe not in the extreme short term, but these soft cocks were never going to win a flag, we need to tool up for 2030.

Not happy with O'Farrell SB?

We filled that KPD position which was vacant since 2017, when Jamieson retired, in 2019 when Jones was swung back and it worked. Luck within the list.
That didnt last long, and became our achilles heel. We have had a hole at CHB since Jones was delisted during covid. Bad Luck.
SOS put his hand up this year and filled that spot with aplomb. But injury continues to disrupt his year. Now SOS is looking at Pies offer.

Finding a KPD is far more difficult than finding a HF/Mid.
The Kennedy move was done to give us an opportunity at O'Farrell, and it worked.
Kennedy would not have helped us win games we were clearly undermanned.
Kennedy was excess to our needs. Not replacing him with a senior player is the crime imo.

I've been unfairly heaping it on Austin for the List, but Austin obviously had the backing of the List Committee (CEO, FM, LM, Coach).
The Kennedy deal isnt the reason why Austin failed.



Warren Ralph
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/carlton-will-hold-the-line-on-its-fouryear-offer-to-jack-silvagni-amid-collingwood-interest/news-story/0baecc0ddde3569c81f3e6ee3316ff48

What would Kennedy do better than O'Farrell for the team if SOS leaves, and Gov is delisted, and Haynes retires?

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Would we have got the same pick if we traded out Elijah instead of Kennedy.
Probably

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If that is the case, then you don't want Elijah walking through the doors again. He's contracted till 2026. Let him "be injured" until the end of 2026 & get the professional help he needs outside the club. This type of stuff spreads like a cancer through a club.
It wasn't as if they weren't aware this player had baggage.

Could you see a professional club like Hawthorn making a decision to recruit a player like Elijah Hollands?
They would weigh up pros and cons and make a sensible decision.

Hawthorn just doesn't make many mistakes. They are the number one club of the league since 1960 for a reason. If Austin led the recruitment of Hollands it doesn't reflect well on him.

Yeah , Hawks have led the way . The only bloke I would trust to do a review of our footy club would be Jason Dunstall . Call him and let him name his own price . He would be worth every cent . Dunstall doesn't miss .

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Elijah has played his last game for the club already.

Ginnivan was hitting the ketamine (albeit prescribed) at Collingwood functions.

Before that, they recruited Trent Croad. Twice.

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well played. I don't know why SP has taken this line of thinking, other than it suits his Agenda. Ridiculous logic.

I wanted to bring a few things about Ginnivan too. Nuff said. I have enjoyed personal experiences with some Hawks heroes in the 90's when I was in Melbourne. They were not and are not angels. They are human like most other players. Hawks didnt let a lot out of the bag.

If you don't know the Buddy story or , Demot's list of stories/ facts you would make comments like SB's... Players are human....

Elijah was a target. We got him. Then he got caught. We got him cheap. Only gave him a year. He looked like he had turned the corner for the better. Had a great first year at the club. Club extended his contract. Nothing wrong with all that.

How could anyone use Elijah to prove the Hawks are a better club than us is beyond crazy.

Hawks didn't get caught. They had bigger brown paper bags than Carlton. Hence their success since the 1960's.

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