Completely agree...except Young did play on twice yesterday (and I'm still in shock). Young is still Young and contracted for depth and development.

Whilst we dont have any alternative, he's on our list to play a role. We MUST keep developing him.

We have improvements to make on our list, and must make them constantly.

Unfortunately for some, he's on our list for a few more years. I believe he will keep improving, and there's hope he will see the wickedness of his ways.

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I'm still not missing Stocker.

80% game time for 9 disposals and 1 tackle...against bottom team Eagles.

I prefer Boyd and Cincotta who have taken his role.

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He did. He's played there the past month.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Yeah, at first, I was gutted he was desisted. But after seeing how our backline looks now with more pace, it seems to have been the right call.

Agreed. Certainly, trading both would be IMO a terrible move. Maybe we could consider trading one of them if someone was paying overs, in which case I'd keep Motlop. But I'd rather keep both. Fog seems likely to leave (and his lack of kicking distance will always hold him back), Honey & Owies are both decent squad players but I consider both their ceilings to be considerably lower than Motlop & Durdin's.

Im happy that we have boyd cincotta and kemp plus other hbf so Stocker was surplus to the requirements what Im still not happy about is he is a first 22 player at Stkilda a potential finslisr AND WE GOT NOTHING as a trade -very bad business and indicative of both how we are not hard nosed enough on and off the field and indicative of why in 2023 we still arent playing finals
Every draft pick
Potentially adds to your list
We got something at least for SPS when he was in almost exactly the same position

Brace yourself for Paddy Dow to leave as a delisted free agent.

Yep
And that will be bad business as well
Surely when you have not made finals for more than 10 years you make sure you get everything right and presumably list management is one of the key areas you must be better in

Wasnt expecting the world for Stocker just something same with dow if and when he goes -ridiculous that the Saints are 8 spots higher on yhe ladder and we gift them a player who has played every senior match for thrm this year and is 22 years old

Motlop and Durdin are relatively high picks for good reason, but are kids developing their craft.
Ideally their time should come when the likes of Owies, Martin and Cuningham are on the declin, unless their form says otherwise.
They are all forwards and have similar KPI's, but different sizes and weapons.

Fisher is the off one in the small forward/ midfield groups imo.

Motlop and Durdin'd time will come.
I remember Durdin first few games when he brought the same preseason pressure from the preseason but he faded imo.
That's not a criticism nor unexpected given he was 18yo. Motlop similar impact.
We can't expect them to be 23yo ready: conditioned, muscled up and plenty of IQ and stamina.
Some people expect them to be ready week in week out in their first couple of years.
They are not Walsh or Rozee or Rankine who are freaks.

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Trading a Pick 5 for pick 20ish was disappointing.
Losing Stocker and Setterfield for nothing is bad business.
I can't believe the 2 weren't fished out earlier when their form was there for everyone to see in the last few rounds when they found some form.
WTF happened? Austin? Maybe they know something we don't but....not good business from where most of us sit.
We will see how good the spot they created for Lemmey and O'Keefe turns out in 3-4 years.

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Hope you are right about Lemmey and Okeefe would be great if they come on
Lemmey at pick 60 odd a steal and thats why every draft pick is important and even for residual players you fight tooth and nail to get something for them

All picks have some value.
Next year we will be looking for points, not players and not waste our first round pick matching a bid for Campo boys.

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Not sure if anyone can answer this, but I'm curious to know:

1. How good are the Campo twins, eg. as it stands, would they be considered 1st round prospects in the absence of f/s connections? 2nd round? One of each?

2. What kind of picks do we require to match a bid for each of them? Does that depend whereabouts in the draft the rival bid comes in?

3. Should we consider recruiting only one of them, or does the value of f/s preferences mean you should always recruit, even if it means we're over stocked with skinny young wingers?

Question 1 - About 6 weeks ago, Shifter Sheehan rated his top 22 draft prospects for 2024. FWIW, he had one of them (I think Lucas) in there and listed at about 7 or 8. Not sure if he listed in order or not. He didn't have the other twin in his 22. Of course, this is one person's opinion and recruiters may see it differently and a lot can still happen over the next 12 months or so.

Question 2 - I have no idea how the points system works. I believe we may get a 20% discount? Off memory, Collingwood used a sway of 3rd and 4th rounders to build up enough points for Daicos. So based on that, what some are floating of trading next years first or a first rounder this year could be sound. Depending on where we finish and where a bid comes, we may need to use our first rounder to match. Another option is wait and see where we finish and if need be, look at trading our 2024 first rounder for a 2025 first rounder?

Question 3 - Guess it depends on a number factors but if both are deemed to be good long term prospects, I reckon we take them both.

We'd only trade out our first round pick if there was a risk of a bid before we get to use it.
Unless trading for other reasons like moving up the order.
Splitting our first might be tricky this year if the results are picks in the likely bid range

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Nice one, thanks!

Yep and we probably wont know till this time next year whether that will be the case.
We could play to our potential (which IMHO is top 6) in which case a bid will likely come before our first pick.
Alternatively, we could sit where we now which would be pick 5 in which case we'd likely get to use that pick before a bid comes.
Hence, may be worth not trading that pick this year and waiting. If need be, we could then trade it for a 2025 first rounder.

Re splitting pick this year, if our uplift in form continues and we finish somewhere between 8th and 11th, agree, it will be difficult.
If we stay where we are and hold pick 5 then it becomes viable.

Ah, I thought the twins were eligible for the 23 draft, if it's 24 then I guess it's a bit early to speculate where they rank!

Reckon our pick range will be 6 to 9, for this cohort would be a decent asset , valuable pick.
Hopefully Watson May drop due to is minuscule stature, otherwise Wilson, Lorenz, or Sanders all quality midfielders. There would be an abundance of quality tall youngsters for positions either end of the ground & Ruck.
Plenty of talent in the top ten, one wouldn’t be too precipitous and split a valuable selection.

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