zac williams mid,witherden replace sps, and keep our first rnd pick done well .start

We'll probably use Witherden as pressure forward and throw Williams into the Ruck.
That's what we do yeah

Neither did his opponents Gov and Fish.

Maybe he did do something.

You're not interested in Williams?

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Nah, we want him as the inside mid he was in last year's Prelim.

He's a better HB than the midfield group they have in there.
I prefer Willams play as the inside mid to give Cripps support/ relief on 700 than Coniglio on 1.2M, and Shiel on 900

He's a good player.
I can't think of a better target than Williams.

We can't afford to continue to miss out on top up stars to develop with the kids.
He doesn't cost us picks, plus we have our 105% salary cap/ war chest to spend next year of it vanishes.
Not using that banked money is the waste ... a long as we spend it on a class player.

Kelly Coniglio Whitfield Green all signed up whilst they let go Shiel and others for cap space

Cameron Williams are wanted by the GWS with the above are the core group along with Haynes.
They are prepared to Trade their plethora of first round players on their list

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I'm starting to think most of you are just alters for the Google Bot.

Zac Williams?? Give me a spell.... classic product-of-the-system type.

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Not actually sure what you mean crusader but yes I’m very keen on Zac Williams and understand he wants to play in the middle

I think SPS wants to play further upfield.
Fisher wants to play in the middle but has been told he has to develop into a small forward.
Just saying.

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If we could pick the best footballers on the list right now, the side would imo comprise:

5 Talls - Weitering, Jones, Pittonet, McKay, Casboult
5 Mediums - Plowman, Docherty, Jack, Charlie & McGovern
12 Smalls - Williamson, Newman, Kemp, Cripps, Walsh, Setterfield, Ed, Martin, SPS, Newnes, Murphy, Betts

Simpson is done. Brave as they come, but the younger blokes have finally gone past him.

I'm an advocate for Murphy because behind him, is Cottrell, Cunningham, Dow, Gibbons, Lang, O'Brien, Philp, Polson, Ramsay & Stocker. Cunningham and maybe Gibbons aside, the best argument for any of those is 'give him a try'. Similarly, we need Ed to hold on for as long as he can.

Eddie is running low on 'perceived' pressure, but he is still the most dangerous crumber on our list. Martin has good footy instincts and is willing to get in front of the opposition, but is also filling a dire hole in the midfield. Realistically, this is Fisher's only chance at a career, but he is nowhere near as hungry as Eddie and is more of a 'handball receive' type of player, rather than an assist leader. Maybe that's because he just doesn't want to play the role.

We're still a one-ruck outfit, with the big man resting on the bench. A fit Kreuzer is still top dog, but he appears less often than Sasquatch. Pittonet is a great target down the line and a strong competitor who gives the impression that he'd be useful in a fight. It's a great relief knowing that we can count on him as our new #1. De Koning is still 10kg short of making an impression. Casboult is probably the second best ruckman in the side, but also the best CHF.

We've played most of the season with 18 of our best 22 footballers in the side each week. There's not a lot of speed there, but we set up pretty well defensively. It's the unforced turnovers that are killing us each week. We can play some great footy with average foot speed, but not with below average foot skills. We can go end-to-end as well as any side, but as soon as there is a broken possession, we're all at sea.

If I was Nick Austin, I would be turning over every stone to find guys that have a high football IQ and kick to handball ratio who can hit a 35m target within an inch of dead centre... essentially, some on-field leadership.

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SPS is that guy, however he can't win his own footy, lacks pace and gets ragdolled in contests.

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Considering you always bang on about McGovern, I thought i'd have a look at his year.
He's kicked 8 goals, McKay has kicked 12.
He's had 19 inside 50's McKay has had 13
He's had 7 goal assists which is above average. McKay has had 1. 1 goal assist for the season!
He's had 18 tackles. McKay has had 14
He's had 11 tackles inside forward 50. McKay has had 7.
He averages more disposals than McKay and has a disposal efficiency of 69.6 which is above average. McKay has a disposal average of 48.7. (Below average) Last week against Collingwood, McKay had 5 turnovers from 6 possessions. And posters are wondering why we're busting a gut for inside 50's and not getting reward.

McGovern isn't our answer but he wasn't bought in to be the main man. When Charlie returns, McGoverns smarts will come into their own. In my forward 50, Charlie will be the key and he's the type of player that will want to be the main man.
Surround them with another tall (Casboult or TDK) and pacy smalls and the forward line with start to function properly. I think we tend to forget how good Charlie can be. Talk about playing him on the wing etc. Here's a bloke who kicked 7 in a game last year. This season we're struggling to kick 7 as a team.
McKay out, draft picks or midfielders in.

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Good stats.
It can't get anymore simpler than that.

deano good moves ,u should join coaching panel

McAdams stats?
Certainly was the main man in regards to his skin folds last year
You and others and I can put forward any argument we like
We agree to disagree about the merits of the trade and Mc Govern himself
One thing for certain he was shit Thursday night
But there were others

McGovern averaging more kicks, marks, goals, inside 50's, goal assists, metres gained, one percenters, intercepts, better disposal efficiency.

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Stan the statistics wizard
Did you include the punch out bounds when he should have marked it
You forgot to include all of the stats
McAdam last 10 games stack up with the Govs efforts
McAdam does actually play deeper in the forward 50
Anyway will be interesting if both play next Sunday so you can compare
Because you like others clearly don’t watch other teams too closely

Shouldn’t do this but McAdam Mc Govern
Score Involvements both 3.8
Tackles 2.9,2
Tackles in forward 50 1.4,1.2
Rebounds50 .4 ,.2
Disposals8.4,7.7
Handball 2.9,1.2
Contested possession 4.3,3,3
Turnovers 1.9,2.1
Contested marks 1,.6
Marks inside 50 1.1,1.0
Just for a less biased view

And one final stat which is the most damming
Average forward 50s
Blues 44.3
Adelaide 34.8

You ask for the stats and then sook up when they don't back up your agenda.
And because they don't tell your story, that somehow means I don't watch other teams. Great logic.
Their stats are similar and yet you want one dropped and the other you pump up like he's @#$%&! superman.

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All you did was put up the stats his in front of.
And not specific numbers
Are you one of Trumps political advisors.
Are you related to him
Read the stats I have just given you?
This despite us pumping it in there over 9 times a game more
Over to you

Witherden can play. But we need more run and speed. He doesn't supply it.