Not sure if you're taking the piss here Psych, but you have Temay in the 18 ahead of a future gun in Zach and a regenerated Brock, 3rd in B&F?

Reckon Menzel could be Rd 1 material, based on his performances in SANFL over the past few years. I'd say Jeffy would want to find the old spark ASAP.

Taking the piss but I believe Menzel will be close for Round 1.

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..i dunno, i think Touhy has potential to move beyond a pure small defender role.. ..especially if Yarran gets moved a bit further upfield, Touhy may take Yarran's running defender role, which opens a BP position..

..as for Menzel, not sure he's 'direct competition' to Garlett.. ..more to Lucas 'type' i would think.. ..plenty of options for HFs that can run thru midfield as 2nd string rotations..

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http://users.tpg.com.au/jrhass/teamboard.swf
who gets to fix this for 2013?
this magnetic/exchangeable team board seems to have been ''created by Jimmae''

I'd say Jimmae

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Joseph for bell?



No way

If Bell is fit, he'll be a regular. Joseph shouldn't be on he list

Ive got:

Laidler Jamo Duigen
Yarran Hendo Scotland
Gibbs Murphy Judd
Simpson Waite Walker
Garlett Hampson Betts
Kreuzer Robinson Carrazzo

McLean, Menzel, Tuohy, Armfield

Em Lucas, Casboult and Bell

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I like Joseph, because he's served us well in the past.
We've moved on since then....new coach, fit playing list, kids growing up and additions to the list.

Bell showed us a glimpse of what's to come....the next Kouta type...big bodied midfielder.
If Bell could have a lend of Brock's experience I don't think Brock would be making way for Bell too..may just do that in 2013.

Those who doubt Bell didn't quite absorb what he did in 2012 with limited opportunity and interupted season with injury.
He will be in our first 22 if not 2013, then certainly 2014. He is one tough cooky who can run and run and hurt and kick a few opportunistic goasl...as has Joseph...but he's a midget compared to Bell, and I'd say Joseph is past his best and done well to come off the rookie list.

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Is anybody else having trouble accessing the teamboard? Has Jimmae taken it down?

Anyway, if there was a "Probables" vs "Possibles" game right now.....

PROBABLES

Tuohy Jamo Laidler
Yarran Watson Scotland
Simmo Judd Gibbs
Robbo Hendo Garlett
Betts Waite Walker

Kreuzer Carrazzo Murphy

Inter: Armfield, Brock, Hammer
Sub: Lucas

POSSIBLES

Temay White Duigan
AJ Rowe Davies
Bootsma Bell ROK
Menzel Casboult McCarthy
Buckley Mitchell Dale

Warnock Curnow Ellard

Inter: Collins, Graham, ??
Sub: ??

NB -
*I've not included McInnes. If he was fit, I'd have him in the "Probables". He can play at either end and on different types of opponents. He will be a loss for us in 2013.
*I've got Rowe at CHB for the "Possibles" to highlight our need to acquire a key defender in the Rookie Draft. Rowe played some footy in defence early last year in the VFL, but I don't think he was drafted to play that role. I see him as a forward/ruckman who might be able to help out in defence if he gets the right match-up (eg. on a resting ruckman). I hope we're looking at a key defender with our only 'live' pick in the Rookie Draft (I'm assuming Collins is locked in for the other pick). Perhaps Joel Tippett or Nick Rodda?
*I concede that the backline for the "Probables" looks a little slow with Watson, Laidler and Scotland there. Hopefully that's off-set to a degree by the presence of Yarran and Tuohy. Watson must stake a claim for a key defender role in 2013, IMO. I wonder if MM might look at Walker as an attacking defender?
*I think our best forward set up is having both Waite & Hendo sharing FF/CHF duties - with Hammer/Kreuzer rotating through the goal square. I know Hendo has played his best footy in defence, but I can see him working well as a tall forward with Waite & the ruckman, and then pushing up behind the ball at times. This structure will help the likes of Betts, Garlett & Armfield get into the game and give the opposition some real headaches. Mitchell needs another development year I think. Casboult and Rowe will push for regular selection but will need excellent early season form & fitness to be picked as the forward/2nd ruck ahead of Hammer.

Obviously a lot can change over a summer, but that's my impression of how it looks at this stage...

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Ah! I must have been trying to access it while you were editing it.

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Hey abns,

Given the amount of VFL football you've watched, what leads you to select McCarthy in the forward half (and on a flank) given his junior football history of playing in defence?

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McCarthy played his best footy in the VFL as a HF/Wing and it was a run of solid games in this role that lead to his AFL selection in Round 23. He seemed to really enjoy having a bit more freedom to move around and be more attacking. I'm not sure he's going to make it in the AFL as a flanker type, but his performance in Round 23 was reasonably encouraging. I thought he showed a few glimpses as a key defender over the last 2 years in the VFL, but overall he struggled as a KP. He's KP size, but doesn't really play like one unfortunately. I notice in the recent Inside Carlton magazine that SR described him as a "Tyson Goldsack type - the third tall defender or the third tall forward" and that's exactly the way I came to consider McCarthy as 2012 went on. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCarthy played forward during the NAB Cup and Walker used further up the ground.

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B: Tuohy Jamison Laidler
HB: Judd*Watson Yarran
C: Gibbs McLean Simpson
HF: Waite Henderson Garlett
F: Betts Casboult Walker
R: Kreuzer Murphy Carrazzo
I: Menzel Robinson Scotland Armfield

*Malthouse said he would move Judd to HB "If he was Blues coach".

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at the minute,
laidler jamison watson
yarran henderson scotland
simpson carrazzo lucas
garlett waite gibbs
walker mitchell betts
kreuzer judd murphy
menzel robinson mclean
sub; bootsma

Very close to a 22 I came up with the other day ABNS, though I can see Menzel displacing one of Armfield or Lucas in this 22. Given the vibe MM has about Watto, I had to slot him into CHB with Hendo fwd. Can also see Levi getting a gig ahead of Hammer for that tall fwd/2nd ruck gig (think Leigh Brown under MM) but pre season form will sort that out you'd think.

Great looking team, whatever.

Hey BC, yeah they aren't bad teams on paper but it's essentially the same players as last year (a few coming back from injury that didn't play much last year, like Laidler, and maybe 1 or 2 - like Watson and Lucas - can cement a regular place after a couple of years on the fringes) so I guess it comes down to whether or not MM can get us playing as a cohesive unit and how soon. We also need a few individuals to put 2012 behind them and return to their best - Walker and Garlett are 2 that come to mind in that regard.

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I think more & more teams will have at least 1, perhaps 2, jets in their forward line in a 2 talls, 3 smalls + 1 good medium marker / third forward set-up. As that rolls out the defences in this list are just getting too slow. If we're going to prefer Scotland still as the sweeper then we're saying Yarran and Armfield are basically having to play back and I don't think that's what the team needs in defence. We need both in & around the middle.

I can see Temay getting some games in 2013 if this is what he can bring. Will be interesting to see how Salty Malty manages Joseph, whether he even gets a look-in at all (I know TC doesn't think so) because we are very short for good small options in defence.

Ratten tried to get Walker into some form deep in defence late in 2012 where his all round abilities could be brought into the game. Will be interesting to see where Walker lines up too. Defend, gather, take a bounce or two, launch forward a la Heath Shaw?

Has been tried before molsey, sort of. Remember he had that good run playing across CHB a few of years ago, before he got injured again? He might have even been played as the CHB, my memory fails me. I think he could reprise that role again, although when he's fit, the matchup difficulties he presents as a forward are more attractive than having him down back. At times like this I am guided by the principle of, do what your opponent would like least. I think opposition coaches would prefer to see him across half back than down forward.

I am hoping Zach really cements the Half back rebounding role. he's got the speed and kick for it. Reasonable enough defending a man as well. Certainly won't shy away from a contest. Would love for Yarran to move further up more often, but the question on his tank is still there I guess.

We need medium forwards not medium backs.
Walkers 2011 accuracy and return alone, should all but guarantee him a spot up forward.
Besides, Walker has made it blatantly clear that he knows his best football to be playing forward of centre.

I agree about Joseph. Have a feeling that Malthouse has plenty to work with there, if Joseph lends himself wholly to Mick and concentrates on the task given.