They are playing KPF for the top 6 teams....not really spuds. I respect any player who crosses the line. Those who arent good are soon dismissed. Carlton on the other hand is known to keep players in the hope they become KPDs or get over their injuries.

The May Lever is the best example from circa 2024 of shorter defenders, but its May's strength to take No 1 KPF that helps them out. Like I said its a case of strength vs height. Have to have one or the other to play KPD. Have to ask have you ever seen Lever left to defend one on one? Hopeless, Lost, anxious and very upset when he's left to fend for mimself. Every player has their achilles heel. He loves the space, to leave his man and jump for the spoil or mark.

As for looking at oppo KPD's, I have, they all have at least one very tall KPD (198-200) and one strong KPD (193-6) or 2 very talls, or even 3.

I know your argument about Footscray's unicorns playing 3 KPFs...but the fact is they exist more than you know or want me to believe. Don't worry if you think they are spuds today or unicorns. Most important thing to do in this exercise is see if they exist and what we have to counter them next year.

I think fresh young talls at Hawks are still young and developing, and may be ripe when Frost, Battle and Barrass end their careers, but at Carlton we are looking for a ready made KPD to replace Young, and one intercept mark better than Kemp and Gov. Hence Haynes. That Young improvement is key. I have faith in Young TBH, but I know 90% of Carlton supporters hate him. I have the same faith in SOS to play KPF-Ruck because TDK is our No 1 ruck, but don't know if Young and SOS are the answers TBH.

young is such a tease. he can string together good to very good games, and then he can play himself into the two's and off the list he so bad.

i wish he'd be consistent. the last 3 games he played this season were good. so good, that i'd rather chase houston and persist with him for another year. but cfc thinks otherwise and put him on the trade block.

can't wait for the season to end and the trade period to kick start.

I get the Young tease bit, but on the flipside I question whether the everchanging game plans of Voss as the reason for Young's "confusion", or, do the changes in game plan, caused maybe because of injury, is when we see the defense slaughtered with oppo forward entries and every defender looks vulnerable. Maybe Young is good enough to play FB. I think he is, and the midfield defending needs to improve moreso than Young.

One hundred percent . Young cops shit because of slackness further up the ground . Bit of victim shaming really .

Wasn’t there also talk of the third McCartin brother, Charlie, who was playing down at Lorne under Ed Curnow? Did that ever go anywhere and did he end up playing any VFL?

young is such a tease. he can string together good to very good games, and then he can play himself into the two's and off the list he so bad.

i wish he'd be consistent. the last 3 games he played this season were good. so good, that i'd rather chase houston and persist with him for another year. but cfc thinks otherwise and put him on the trade block.

can't wait for the season to end and the trade period to kick start.

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Young’s problem is that he’s had to be dragged, kicking & screaming into a CHB role. The penny hasn’t quite dropped. He sees himself as a third man up interceptor (he said as much when he left the Dogs) and, in fairness, it’s a great mismatch with his size & athleticism… not so great for his teammates that are left on an island with the bigger man.

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Agree pick 11 and 2 picks in 20's an ideal scenario and combined with Camporeale twins, a great haul.