azzablue wrote:
jim wrote:
zoneman wrote:
Forgive me if I'm an eternal optimist. I think we'll sort ourselves out as a club. I get the acrimony and I feel it too. However, It's not unusual for clubs to got through turmoil. And it will happen again at other clubs. Sure a little different from what we're going through but not much, if at all. I will give the club credit; though, it has removed a lot of personal from the top to the players. so they're keen to get themselves in a better position. I would've preferred to have David Teague stay on with an improved assistant coaching list and be told that he is expected to improve his defensive skills. Then, if that hadn't been the case then we'd go for Alistair Clarkson. However again, it is what it is and we have no control over that except with our membership contributions. We could sign for an EGM but that doesn't seem to have come about, if I'm correct. I would be happy for that if it came about and go to the meetings and hear what everyone has to say and vote accordingly. I think we have to sit tight and wait for things to unfold. it's hard.
I think we should have let Teague see out his contact, actually support him, a novelty here, put good people around him and tell him to improve aspects of his coaching. Just for the fact Clarko and Buckley would have been around next year if Teague still struggled. That would have been a much easier way. Would have looked more creditable rather than a laughing stock. Now we a rummaging through the $2 bin just in the hope of finding the dregs that are left.
Hopefully the Pyke rumour is right, be a good get, otherwise it's a first timer because there is nothing else left.
Firstly you wouldn’t of got good assistants around. Teague next year , knowing the scrunity he was under , second of all it had been discovered and acknowledged that they made a mistake hiring him
And you can’t go from Teague to Pyke , Pyke ruined a culture of footy team , the buck stops with the coach
As hird was a key factor in the drugs scandal and Pyke was a key factor in That camp and letting it proceed
If you get a chance read the article in the herald sun about the 20 points that turned Melbourne around and it started with Peter Jackson strong ceo and Paul Roos to build a culture after such a long losing culture ,, it says it all and as they say now , the the rest is history !!
Pyke made an error with the camp but it is something you learn from. He can certainly coach. Be absolutely silly just to write him off on that camp. Right now he is the favourite for the job at $3. Closed minds don't help.
Teague did a better job than anyone here this century other than Ratts. He had thing she needed to tidy up but he had us a competitive side, on the scoreboard at least, which barely anyone else had come close bar Ratts. We have the worst culture imaginable, so we did ok to get away with what we did, especially with players who refuse to defend or runs both ways. Teague trusted them to do that and they didn't. That culture issue has been there for 20 years. There is no argument there and it has brought down 6 coaches. Probably do it again in 2 years. No patience here among the club itself or supporters. It is always instant success or sack everyone. Richmond and Melbourne took 8 years and there was plenty of shit in that time leading up, especially with Melbourne. They knew what to do though because they are a professional club, the coach had their real ups and downs, like Teague, but put the right people in place and look where they are. At Carlton, we just expect success instantly or else. Not the 80's anymore. We are just losers.
All we had to do was let Teague see out his contract then others, like Clarko and Buckley, would have been available after a break. We would have looked a decent club and more attractive if we needed to swap coaches at the end of 2022. Instead we are rummaging through the $2 bin to find a coach because we want experience and looking like an absolute pack of idiots in the process. Coaches look at us and think, "why would I go to Carlton?". This garbage has probably set the club culture back even further. What a rabble!
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