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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:44 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Preistey's letter to Members

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While our club has agreed that working towards adjusting access to father son and NGA talent was necessary over the long term to ensure a more equitable system, our club’s position has been absolutely clear that for any proposed rule changes, they had to come with an appropriate runway so as not to disadvantage specific clubs.

Part of the clear case we put forward was that the AFL had to allow all clubs to properly plan and prepare for any changes to draft rules, in order to provide the same runway that previous clubs have been afforded, and as a result, have significantly benefited from.

This was the only appropriate and truly equitable way to implement such changes however today’s discretionary decision by the AFL has gone against this, with full knowledge that it will disadvantage certain clubs more than others, which no AFL rule change should.


So, we all agree the AFL has completely dismissed any of Carlton's views on changes to the Draft. We all agree the AFL has not treated us fairly with this. We all agree the clubs who were allowed to milk the Draft with latter picks, will continue with that advantage over teams who havent the same opportunity to replenish their lists.

What are we doing about it?

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Despite the lack of an appropriate runway for such rule changes, through discussion and consultation we have seen the 10% discount retained for all clubs that do not make the top 10.

Irrespective, our club has put itself in a strong position as it relates to our upcoming father son and NGA talent considerations.


Nothing.

Accepting that the AFL chooses to completely ignore the requests for fairness of its treatment of Carlton, and accepts the disadvantage the AFL has enforced on Carlton.

Spin it however you like Preistly, but imo, you have given up on the club's right to defend its position in a court of law.

This is a farce. Farcical from our President and Board as a response, and farcical the size of the runway AFL has offered the competition for 2026.

In any man's language the AFL have been too late in making a call at the end of April for this November's Draft. That doesn't need explanation.

Priestley has got too many problems retrieving the Saudis money to be tied up in courtrooms over footy.


JP Morgan has Saudi $US all tied up. Australia's Preistly has no influence on Trump and therefore the Strait of Hommez, but Jamie Dimon does. With Dimon negotiating terms, Preistly has plenty of time to act as our President. The time has come.

Even Bassat has pointed out today the new draft rules encourage Tanking. Hence a failure. That should be a noose for that goose, Swann, when his man Bassat says those kind of things.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:49 pm 
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Would taking the AFL to court come out of our soft cap and if so if the chances of winning are low then what is the point? The best we can do is win a premiership and "stick it right upem!"


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:03 pm 
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Would taking the AFL to court come out of our soft cap and if so if the chances of winning are low then what is the point? The best we can do is win a premiership and "stick it right upem!"


The next step is to put an Appeals Committee together
They will scope the case. IMO the grievances are winnable.

Start with the obvious, the new rules encourage tanking, and clubs haven't been given reasonable time for a runway.
Did I mention it is imminent an new inequitable regime starts next year with Tasmania?
The current offer has not considered how the entry of Tasmania next year will hinder the bottom teams. The new rules will be the nail in the coffin for those bottom teams.

There's too much at stake.

Lets go. Next step is to set up an Appeals Team and Appeal if our case is strong and likely to, at worse, stall the new rules to next year.

The AFL has to be held accountable.
I dare say there would be at least 9/18 Presidents against the AFL's knee jerk changes.

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 6:12 pm 
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It would be 18/18 if they had 1st Rd prospects.

It's a joke. Objectively, a joke.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 9:17 am 
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It’s important to remember that development of young players is not linear
Is Walker the best player we can get in the draft come November


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 10:04 am 
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Keogh I think we will know more come years end.
But having him play in our VFL team, learning our systems and getting exposure to the bigger bodies is definitely putting him in the right position to be the best player.
The issue I have is we get penalised for doing it at the draft table as he will be ready to go round 1 next year.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 10:26 am 
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keogh wrote:
It’s important to remember that development of young players is not linear
Is Walker the best player we can get in the draft come November
No doubt in 3 years you'll tell us who we should take in the 2026 draft keogh :lol:

But your point is a good one. We do get blinded by the father son availability.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 10:26 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
Keogh I think we will know more come years end.
But having him play in our VFL team, learning our systems and getting exposure to the bigger bodies is definitely putting him in the right position to be the best player.
The issue I have is we get penalised for doing it at the draft table as he will be ready to go round 1 next year.
I'm worried about him learning our systems.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 11:01 am 
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keogh wrote:
It’s important to remember that development of young players is not linear
Is Walker the best player we can get in the draft come November


That's a good question. He is a stand out, but is he the best available at our pick?
He's the quick mid we need to add and build from imo. We are lucky to have the opportunity regardless of how bad the AFL have made this for us.

He plays VFL tomorrow and next year, he'll will virtually be a 2nd year player given he completed a preseason with us last summer as a 16yo, with aplomb, so his not a misfit.

2027-2032: Walsh Smith Walker, then add to them...Humphries....Ainsworth...Toughness with speed. Get them a good ruckman and away we go.

He's obviously rated Top 3 for a lonng time, and thus far that hasn't changed, and we have made a commitment to him, as he has to us, instead of going with the Tigers as an NGA.

Its a done deal. I feel it is a privilege we have access to him. We will see the 17yo tomorrow. He was born in January 2008.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1833781/cody-walker-commits-to-carlton

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 11:24 am 
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bluehammer wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Keogh I think we will know more come years end.
But having him play in our VFL team, learning our systems and getting exposure to the bigger bodies is definitely putting him in the right position to be the best player.
The issue I have is we get penalised for doing it at the draft table as he will be ready to go round 1 next year.
I'm worried about him learning our systems.

I'm not.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 2:11 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
. We will see the 17yo tomorrow. He was born in January 2008.


So you completed your time machine, nice!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 3:13 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
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. We will see the 17yo tomorrow. He was born in January 2008.


So you completed your time machine, nice!

Yeah. He’s been 18yo all year, including the preseason.

Hence the argument that he’s got no business, other than setting a bid ‘price’, being in the pathway.

Dougie Cochrane’s knee will be the best healing knee in the history of knees.

@#$%&! being captain of the Pioneers. @#$%&! the State Championships. @#$%&! the Academy games. You’re on the list.

VFL or Echuca seniors for the rest of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 4:12 pm 
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You’ve got no hope while Swann looks to build his legacy at Brisbane. Imagine being able to effectively wipe out the chances of teams to improve having been the biggest beneficiary.

You add to that the governing body has a commercial interest (including their own person KPIs) to have success in ‘new markets’.

It’s the most corrupt sport in the world, they make FIFA look like characters from Disney on Ice.

No wonder I’ve stopped watching it


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2026 4:27 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
You’ve got no hope while Swann looks to build his legacy at Brisbane. Imagine being able to effectively wipe out the chances of teams to improve having been the biggest beneficiary.

You add to that the governing body has a commercial interest (including their own person KPIs) to have success in ‘new markets’.

It’s the most corrupt sport in the world, they make FIFA look like characters from Disney on Ice.

No wonder I’ve stopped watching it

New? They’re 50 flower years & five flags in.

Even the other mob have had 15 years.

@#$%&! sake, there are clubs up there that are 100 years old.

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