Feel that once Malthouse ran his eye over the list/contracts that he may have just asked McKay to announce that we'll be quiet through the trade period.

I'm sure he realized there and then, that we really haven't got anywhere to go and wouldn't have wanted to be seen to be trying to lure players and failing.
If that's what happened Malthouse did the right thing and come out looking quite good and supportive of his players. Time to repay that faith, guys.

When you break it down, I find it all the more astounding some people refuse to admit (despite how sickening the thought is) that Collingwood nailed the trade/FA period and made us look stupid by comparison. Especially when the most popular argument is "there's no guarantee those first round picks will be stars". More of a guarantee than our pick 36 or 56, that's for sure.

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..wouldn't be singin' the pies trade season praises just yet.. ..weaselham can actually play, and can be an attacking or negating onballer.. ..so they've actually just lost one of their 'next crop' of onballers, getting pick 17 in return lessens the loss, but they still have to pick well and then that player needs to develop, be happy with their club, and prove himself durable..

..ditto Dawes, he's not much chop but he's better going fwd than Lynch, and the reason Dawes was played so much as a ruck relief fwd is because Jolly's aging and has no backup.. ..Lynch doesn't really help this problem, their biggest problem moving fwd, which they were not able to address.. ..holding onto Cloke at an increased contract cost/length isn't what they would have wanted either,, which the knock-on effect can still be felt in time as well..

..so, they've lost a young up and coming onballer, a proven quantity that's above avg in talent.. ..they likewise lost a youngish KPF that's proven himself to be afl standard [if not great], and more importantly one that plays to instruction with good work ethic.. .... ..they got good picks in return, so what they've gained is an opportunity to recoup their losses..

..you could just as easily argue that good list management on their behalf would have seen Cloke tied up with a new contract long before he bent the club over.. ..you can argue they'd have secured ruck relief and ruck future for jolly and themselves, and not been forced into using a fwd as pinch hitting ruck, or buying in an old lynch after said young fwd isn't happy nor capable of playing a fwd/ruck relief role and is 'moved' on..

..there's no promises that the picks for weaselham or dawes will be improvements.. ..and even if they are, they're only whatever said improvement is better off than they previously were.. .... ..and their KPF stocks aren't so jazzy after dawes has left.. ..cloke is v.good, but now it's lynch who's already going to be used as a part time fwd/ruck.. ..and then who?, paine is it or o'keefe..??.. ..goldsack as 3rd tall?, isnt that lynch's role..?.. ..who's the new FF..??.. etc etc

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They lost Wellingham for Pick 17 and Clinton Young. If that pick doesn't work out, the failure would be lessened due to the fact they they've got a ready-made (albeit a slight downgrade) replacement for Wellingham.


Same situation. If their pick doesn't work out, Lynch (while arguably a downgrade) at least fills the hole left behind.

Bear in mind also, that both guys weren't totally in favour with the coach at times this year. One went down the midfield pecking order (due to the emergence of Beams, Fasolo, Blair) and the other was dropped to the 2's right before finals.

At worst, they've given themselves the best opportunity to succeed in the draft, have given themselves three swings in the first round and have covered themselves if (remarkably) they all turn out to be strikes. That's some good list management right there, as much as we'd like to see it fail.

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I think a lot had to do with the fact most people were critical of us not doing trades that only existed in their mind.

Everyone wanted Top 20 picks, but to get them were offering packages that usually contained the likes of Russell, Thornton, Ellard/Curnow etc.

The only facts we can assume is that there was no better off than Pick #71 on the table for JR, and there was a strong rumour going around on the final day that Collingwood offered up a pick around #39-#42 for Warnock.

Realistically what players would you been happy to lose that could have attracted Picks #17 and #20 from other clubs? Henderson, Robbo, Yarran?

Garletts name came up in the last couple of days as an option yet the majority either wanted to keep him, or accept nothing less than a top 10 pick.

People can argue all they like about how rubbish Wellingham and Dawes are but until our guys are known as Premiership players, rather than just 'potentially good' then there is little chance of getting overs for them at the trade table.....

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Seriously?

Won't get 50,000 members with crap like this.

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Nearly choked on my breaky....

Look at the bright side, it would add to the "bag the sh1t out of players" week in week out on TC

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Maybe they'll give him the #50, with his locker right up the other side of the locker room. That'd be nice.

FMD surely they are taking the piss

They get Malthouse then chase Cloke look at Raph and then talk to this wanker . They must be trying tio piss all supporters off

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Wow.

Watson could hardly contain his glee at the prospect on SEN this morning. That tells me all I need to know.

It's a needs basis. We're seriously lacking flowers.

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Why do we need another player who goes missing all the time?



Ahhhh

Why don't we get the double & draft Lonergan as well

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The fact we spoke to Reimers doesn't amount to us giving up pick #11 for him.

May just come down to pick #71 being made available for a young player should a quality still be available, or we may just weigh up the options of who may just be around, about then.
If Malthouse does indeed think that Reimers may just offer him more than Collins, then so be it.

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