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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Is anyone else's TC really slow?

274 Guests browsing the forum... is that normal?


597 just now but the only registered users listed are me, three bots and Syd and I’ve often suspected he might be a bot too so maybe just one real person. :lol:

Obviously a lot of crawlers hitting site.

Has something changed?


I’ll vouch for Syd being a real person, met up with him (and Bondi) at the game last Friday.



Nice to see you blokes there.

I know Sydney Blue was scathing Carlton at half time, but the game was a slog. So many slip ups. So many skill deficiencies. So many mistakes. Both teams. Bad umpiring. It was ugly.

I don't know how anyone can take anything out from that game, other than Motlop and Evans are not quick small forwards, Pittonet isnt fit for AFL and our developing players are developing in the AFL instead of the VFL. They play whilst Williams, Fantasia, Cottrell and TDK are sidelined. Hang on, Vossy like to play 5 small forwards. :roll:


SB was right when he said our clearance numbers were worrying at half time, if we’d been able to address that we would have won despite the umpiring. Unfortunately Cripps playing injured in the second half made our clearance even worse.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:52 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Is anyone else's TC really slow?


Yes, it’s been slow as Marc Pittonet the last few weeks, maybe something to do with the out of date cert?


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Should we be concerned about data breaches here? I always have an insecure connection warning on the phone, and my work PC won't let me visit. Might be time for a password change...


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 1:00 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Is anyone else's TC really slow?


Yes, it’s been slow as Marc Pittonet the last few weeks, maybe something to do with the out of date cert?


280 guests yesterday
0 guests a couple of minutes ago
180 guests right now

Should we be concerned about data breaches here? I always have an insecure connection warning on the phone, and my work PC won't let me visit. Might be time for a password change...


You're all over it GEx

Surely you know how to bypass the password. If Hungarian counterparts can, then you can too :wink:

It is slowwwwwwwwwwww

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 1:09 pm 
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Just watched the last quarter again. I advise everyone to do.
This f@#$&gn playing group don’t want it enough. Just no desire to win. Flower them


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 2:30 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
GWS wrote:
Hornet wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Is anyone else's TC really slow?

274 Guests browsing the forum... is that normal?


597 just now but the only registered users listed are me, three bots and Syd and I’ve often suspected he might be a bot too so maybe just one real person. :lol:

Obviously a lot of crawlers hitting site.

Has something changed?


I’ll vouch for Syd being a real person, met up with him (and Bondi) at the game last Friday.
You got the band back together!

Minus the daggy bass player :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 4:11 pm 
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Haven't watched the game yet - probably better I don't.

But I've read enough about, and seen the vision of, Boyd's clobbering. You don't have to get yourself suspended in retaliation but retaliate you must. WTF?

An angry take from a non-Carlton footy fan of old (and a generally top writer) that the players should be made to read:

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-season-2 ... their-way/

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You can point to a lot of things going wrong at Ikon Park right now, and it is easy to look at the second-half fadeouts and blame them. Or, if you like, you can look at missed free kicks and blame them, as well. I know plenty do.

But when you see one of your boys get flattened and none of the Carlton players out there do a thing about it, that, to me, is a team that has well and truly lost its way.

That is a team that no longer embodies the mongrel and arrogance that made Carlton great, and made me both hate and fear them when I was a kid.

That is a team accepting defeat...

Hawks play exactly like their coach did... wtf are we doing?

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 4:20 pm 
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I just watched the first half replay, and I have to say Pittonet played a pretty good first half, broke even with Grundy and perhaps shaded him slightly, but he was also absolutely reamed by the umpiring, and so was Cripps when he rucked against Grundy.

I suspect Pittonet ran out of fitness in the second half which I will watch next.

I also noticed Lord played really well and had some excellent fwd 50 entries as did Durdin.

It all changed in a 10 second window when first JSOS pulled up sore, then in the play just after Cripps twisted his ankle.

As mentioned Evans, Motlop and Guv all had poor first halves.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 5:21 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
I just watched the first half replay, and I have to say Pittonet played a pretty good first half, broke even with Grundy and perhaps shaded him slightly, but he was also absolutely reamed by the umpiring, and so was Cripps when he rucked against Grundy.

I suspect Pittonet ran out of fitness in the second half which I will watch next.

I also noticed Lord played really well and had some excellent fwd 50 entries as did Durdin.

It all changed in a 10 second window when first JSOS pulled up sore, then in the play just after Cripps twisted his ankle.

As mentioned Evans, Motlop and Guv all had poor first halves.


Spot on sinners.
We were going well despite a lack of that last kick.
And were carrying players.

Swans crowd were groaning.
You know that sound when you go to a few SCG games
its the channeling of "we need some umpiring support to make us cheer and watch the game". Weird man, but real

Otherwise they get back to their chardies and just chat. On cue. The umpires favour Swans and there's a response from the crowd. A cheer. Umps must get intoxicated by it.
Its an eery sound at the SCG.... regardless the opposition

dannyboy could write an eloquent piece on that subject. Just go to one Swans game and youve done your background work. Easy

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 5:50 pm 
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They're such a weird lot the Swans fans. I can still remember after that final in 2011 that we narrowly lost, where Waite hit the post near the end. Cracking game of footy.

Caught the train back to town & none of their supporters were talking about the match. It was all just onto the rest of the weekend :grin:

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 5:54 pm 
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The umpires overall didn’t influence the result
22 free kicks a piece
Seriously some supporters are delusional
We are way off in in so many facets

There are about a dozen teams playing better than us
Get real


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 5:56 pm 
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Watched the second half, Pittonet was far from our worst, and continued to be constantly Shepherded away from the ball drop by Grundy, and the umpires let it happen.

Jordan boyd played well, especially in the last term when he moved to defence, but he was hit high twice in the term and didn’t even get a free for the first one. I thought he didn’t get a free for the second either when I was at the game but saw that he did when watching the replay.

Guv, Evans and Motlop continued to play horribly, and E Hollands disposal was also shocking. I don’t think the players knew how to handle a heavy, slippery ball.

It was our midfield that really lost us the game.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:04 pm 
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keogh wrote:
The umpires overall didn’t influence the result
22 free kicks a piece
Seriously some supporters are delusional
We are way off in in so many facets

There are about a dozen teams playing better than us
Get real


Put your glasses on and watch the replay, the umpiring decisions gave the swans a massive boost.

The non existing out in the full that gave heeney a goal, the around the neck to Motlop when he was chased down. The non mark to Young that would have resulted in an easy goal (which was paid the n
Henry in the last quarter, although he missed the resulting easy shot at goal). Lizard moving off the mark before play in was called to close down Curnow. The non 50 when the saw a player ran 5 metres over the mark at Hewett, then pretended he didn’t hear the umpire.

The multiple ruck infringements against Pittonet.

I could go on, but you’re very wrong that umpiring didn’t influence the result.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:05 pm 
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And the lack of leadership on the field
The inability of someone to tag either Heeney or Warner
The lack of any tactics to change Walsh’s role to reduce the effectiveness of Jordan’s tag
Shocking ball movement
Pea hearts everywhere
Face it everyone
Our last year of footy has been putrid in terms of ball movement and leadership
How much more evidence do we need


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:07 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
keogh wrote:
The umpires overall didn’t influence the result
22 free kicks a piece
Seriously some supporters are delusional
We are way off in in so many facets

There are about a dozen teams playing better than us
Get real


Put your glasses on and watch the replay, the umpiring decisions gave the swans a massive boost.

The non existing out in the full that gave heeney a goal, the around the neck to Motlop when he was chased down. The non mark to Young that would have resulted in an easy goal (which was paid the n
Henry in the last quarter, although he missed the resulting easy shot at goal). Lizard moving off the mark before play in was called to close down Curnow. The non 50 when the saw a player ran 5 metres over the mark at Hewett, then pretended he didn’t hear the umpire.

The multiple ruck infringements against Pittonet.

I could go on, but you’re very wrong that umpiring didn’t influence the result.

22 frees each
There are always dodgy calls for both teams
Why not focus on on the teams effort


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:55 pm 
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keogh wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
keogh wrote:
The umpires overall didn’t influence the result
22 free kicks a piece
Seriously some supporters are delusional
We are way off in in so many facets

There are about a dozen teams playing better than us
Get real


Put your glasses on and watch the replay, the umpiring decisions gave the swans a massive boost.

The non existing out in the full that gave heeney a goal, the around the neck to Motlop when he was chased down. The non mark to Young that would have resulted in an easy goal (which was paid the n
Henry in the last quarter, although he missed the resulting easy shot at goal). Lizard moving off the mark before play in was called to close down Curnow. The non 50 when the saw a player ran 5 metres over the mark at Hewett, then pretended he didn’t hear the umpire.

The multiple ruck infringements against Pittonet.

I could go on, but you’re very wrong that umpiring didn’t influence the result.

22 frees each
There are always dodgy calls for both teams
Why not focus on on the teams effort


Because I have no argument with you on the teams effort.
Why don’t you acknowledge you’re wrong on the umpiring?

Edit: why don’t you also read the rest of my posts in this thread today?


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:05 pm 
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Did the umps cost us the game
I say know


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:11 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Did the umps cost us the game
I say know

Did you read my posts today? If you did, then you really would know.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:17 pm 
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Know what?

Overall free kick Tally means jack shit, that's such a weak counter argument. It's the number of incorrect decisions, their severity and timing that all matter, all very much against Carlton in this game.

I agree that we were crap in terms of composure, tactics and winning mentality, but the Swans were shit too and arguably only stayed in touch due to umpiring and dumb luck like the 90 degree shank goal assist.

And as a fellow Sydney sider, bondi's assessment of the entitled Swans consumer is bang on the money.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:29 pm 
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We’d be in the 8 now if we’d won this game with GWS/Bye/Essendon*/WC/North/Port in front of us.

That’s 8th, Bye, 10th, 18th, 17th, 15th over the next six weeks.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 8:10 pm 
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Just watched the last quarter again. I advise everyone to do.
This f@#$&gn playing group don’t want it enough. Just no desire to win. Flower them


Nah, rather watch the Geelong game again.

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