Do you actually watch Young play.
If you start the game 1 man down you never recover.
There is a reason Weiters does not want him down back.
He is the ultimate Chicken little.
I nearly fell off the chair when he took a contested mark on the wing without ducking his head.
When he ran forward with the centre clearance he was so afraid of body contact he just coughed the ball up.
Had an eternity to find an option on the wing /hf and completely froze.

We lost by 14 points he cost us at least 30

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I have been saying this for a while. We lack width and the outskirts of the contest is a huge problem (very evident in the Port and Western Bulldogs games). With his running power we will still see Walsh in the midfield but more so on the outskirts of contested situations. I don't believe Walsh had a second half fadeout due to his back but more the stuffing is getting knocked out of him. Cerra is good at preventing the easy clearance exit so let's get him back there.

And on the topic of Young lets not make him the easy scapegoat. He doesn't have a forward craft ... his mix should have been a combination of Back and Ruck. McGovern with his aerial ability would have been been able to provide better contests up forward and bring the ball to ground. I think Voss has played around with Young's confidence and he is a better player than what he is showing. I was staggered that Durdin (who has played hardly any football in 2 years) was selected ahead of Young when we played North Melbourne.

We will beat Collingwood.

I'm not overly concerned about this week at the moment. We're experts at spoiling Collingwood's party and Pendle's 400th is the perfect target.
We need to get the hunger back. It's not overly structural. It's pressure and contest. When we get our pressure around 200, most can't go with us.

I don't believe you can maintain high pressure for an extended time. Look at Sydney as well. Teams suffer a lull but the opportunity is there to go again. Some tough games coming (Hawks and Saints are flying) but the reality is, it's 6 wins to get to a grand final. 4 of those games against teams currently out of the 8.
We've shown we can go on 6-8 game runs of high intensity footy. It needs to start this week.

I'm definitely not a fan of Young but he has to play. Kemp has coughed up a shitload of goals the past month and as tough as it sounds, he has cost us games. He can't play this week. We need a tall to mind Mason Cox and Young is the best choice.

Charlie was huge. Elijah looked good on the wing rotation and I'd go with that again. But him and Ollie can jam the Hollands brothers waxing system they have going. You dispose to the best option, not the lesser option because it's your @#$%&! brother.
Ollie, Kemp and Cunners out. Harry, Acres and Martin in. Cowan to Elliott. I'd even consider Binns for Cottrell.

I know I'll cop some grief for this but Cripps has to step up as our midfield leader this week. It good to bully little blokes but when players like Dunkley and Wines go with him at centre bounces, he has to power through it. He attended 92% of the centre bounces for 1 centre clearance. As a team we had 1 centre clearance in the second half to 6. If you want the most opportunities, you need to perform or get out and give someone else a go at being top banana. 7 stoppage clearances are great but the middle of the ground is where we need him to get back his best. His job is not to run past calling for cheap handballs but to be a beast at centre bounces.
Same with Pitto, no tackles, no centre clearances. Fire the @#$%&! up.

Tough, aggressive, pressure footy. It's this teams DNA. Get it back and we're on a roll again.

They have secured a top 2 Spot 6 weeks a go, they got nothing to worry about. They need to lose next 3 Games again before maybe they will lose top Spot.

Big difference between us & Them. If we lose this week, we could easily drop out of the 8th

Surely Swans are pretenders too? On a worse 5 game run than us, beaten far more easily this weekend by a lower ranked side.

I have no doubt our boys know what needs to be done to win, as opposed to last year when they didn't know if their best was good enough to compete with the best in Finals, let alone know they could win.

Pitto's lack of intensity may have something to do with the fact that there is no one who is going to oust him from the team while TDK is banged up and recovering.

Hope so but not sure. Seems to me our current issues are largely around uncertainty with selection, game style and tempo, matchups etc. We've been reactionary and unsettled lately.

where's all this thought coming that we're in a fitness block? or going thru some conditioning stint?


i hope that's the case. that's so much better than we're running out of gas and are goneski.

If you look at who took the marks and who kicked the goals, it wasn't Young's opponent.
Young's opponent was a combo of Allir and Zerks Thatcher. They didnt kick goals.
They double teamed Charlie whilst Harry's opponent to be, Esava, went to the forwardline.

Young didn't help, with his tentativeness but he didn't and couldn't directly cost us 30 points/ 5 goals, when Kemps and Gov's opponents kicked 5 goals and the midfield group cost us 3 goals. That's 8 goals, and they did earn a couple goals naturally from good play. They only kicked 11 goals. I would have preferred Young to lock down Esava or Georgadis than playing the extra man in defence, along with the another 4 small forwards.

It seems to me Vossy waved the white flag during the 3rd when the dam wall seemed to be at breaking point. We couldn't get the ball out of their half in the 2nd half. From that perspective, keeping Port to 11 goals looks good.

Cost us 5 scoring opportunities - not conceding

5 kicks 6 handballs - 3 marks non of them contested - 3 hitouts none to advantage - 4 clangers and 3 free kicks against

He is 25 year old going on 26 - is 202 cm tall and weighs over 100kg - he was drafted in 2016 so 7-8 years in the system

Weitering doesn't want him down back as he is a liability

He is the most vanilla player we have had on our list for a very long time

our forwards need to bring PRESSURE /TACKLE TACKLE do not let that ball exit from our forward line with ease.GWS fwds 17 tackles our fwds 5 and i think Footscray stats were similar