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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:47 am 
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We have achieved our supporters goals thus far and next game is a free hit against a recent premier who we beat in last years preseason and haven’t feared them since. In fact they pinched it end of last year and we beat them just 3 weeks ago without Harry

Since our last game against them we have added Walsh and Cerra

Pitto smashed Gawn last game and I heard Goodwin wasnt happy with the physical violation of Gawn. That was Vossys instruction. This time it’s a Final. Pitto will do the same.

Harry will be out and SOS is the lead up CHF and mix it up with TDK deeper in forward line.

Bottom line. We have only lost Martin from team that last beat Dees and gained Cerra and Walsh.

I’m hoping Kennedy plays our marking HF rotating with Crippa.

I’d like Holland playing on the wing and expect Acres to play.

I will have a look during week who goes out.

I thought our bottom 6 were really good against Swans. Gov was one of those and he is important in our line up back or forward. Marchy gives us that flexibility.

I’m expecting Tom Mac and Grundy to be the KPFs. That’s good for us but Gov has to play tighter than last couple games

We can win this and prove we have Dees measure

We’ve plucked the duck, and next Friday..

Let’s exorcise these Demons


Martin is a big loss, and Cripps is only able to go at 75%.

We need our bottom six to continue to strep up.

Lozenges all round!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:31 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:57 pm 
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Very confident.

I thought we got the nerves out of the way and will take a lot of confidence into next week. Swans were given opportunities by our mistakes that kept them in it. I thought McKay's two easy misses really hurt us

When we were up early and playing our game the Swans only kicked one goal and that was from our mistake.

Selection will be interesting. Two forced changes. McKay & Martin

It will be a clear night so I would add a bit more run. Acres proved how important is was to have a wing that can cover so much ground. Hollands has to be a serious consideration. Docherty for all his talent and effort doesn't cover the ground as much (not many do) and is better elsewhere

Dow would be my sub. A mid as a sub is the best option. Motlop comes into 22

The Two rucks stay. Can't change now especially with McKay out and Jack not having much game time.

Kennedy is the best option for Martin IMO. He is that midsize, tough, can mark and kick a goal. He has played this role before. Can even help with mid minutes and Cripps can go forward if needed.

I think we will address a number of little issues from the weekend and be much better. Walsh & Cerra will get better and both were very good.


Agree with all of this.
Also, I would like to see our fast forward handball game back more this week.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:59 pm 
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JSOS is kind of like a hybrid of Harry & Jack Martin so it's crucial he can come in & capture some of that form he had against Port

Quitely confident Acres will be right

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:01 pm 
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Flights and accommodation booked. Ready for Round 2 in the Ticketek lounge.
Can’t underestimate what getting that first final under the belt will do for the boys. Look at Richmond who lost 3 Elimination Finals straight before going on their run.
Thought after a tight first quarter of mainly playing long down the boundary side, we really started to open the game in the 2nd but tightened up after Newman conceded a goal from that errant kick out.
Hoping with that one out the way we’ll go back to playing with freedom as slow long bombs, into May and Lever with no Harry plays right into their hands.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:13 pm 
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Can’t underestimate what getting that first final under the belt will do for the boys. Look at Richmond who lost 3 Elimination Finals straight before going on their run.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:21 pm 
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I think Hollands MUST come in. Yes, he can get pushed around but his gut running and ability to help is vital

Acres & Walsh were amazing Fruday night and there ability to push back and help was a big reason we won. Hollands is just another that can do the same

For all Docherty's strengths he is not a gut runner and can be more damaging in other areas.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:24 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Has anyone seen any sort of match report from the scratch match on the weekend?


Was effectively 2 x 20 min quarters plus a bit more. All I was told is Jack Boyd Kennedy all got through and got some valuable game time


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:29 pm 
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With Harry & Martin out, Curnow will be double teamed and at best he will try to bring the ball to ground!

For this reason, I would like to see the introduction of the 3 Mosquito fleet once again: Mots, Durdin & Owies OR at least two of them plus Fogarty.

We need to create Chaos and play Chaos football and get our smalls to hit the scoreboard!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:33 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:38 pm 
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JSOS and motlop into the 22 for me

Owies and motlop up forward will be important, will be a tough night for Charlie but he and TDK can make it dangerous at ground level if they bring it to ground.

I felt we were 1 defender heavy going into last week with March/weiters/gov and Kemp but they balanced it up well.

Hard to know who to play as sub... Maybe Cunners

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:16 pm 
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Ferals QUICK ball movement bring speed ,transition to the game and this will trouble the deeees. Do not give there defenders time to set up.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:31 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Very confident.

I thought we got the nerves out of the way and will take a lot of confidence into next week. Swans were given opportunities by our mistakes that kept them in it. I thought McKay's two easy misses really hurt us

When we were up early and playing our game the Swans only kicked one goal and that was from our mistake.

Selection will be interesting. Two forced changes. McKay & Martin

It will be a clear night so I would add a bit more run. Acres proved how important is was to have a wing that can cover so much ground. Hollands has to be a serious consideration. Docherty for all his talent and effort doesn't cover the ground as much (not many do) and is better elsewhere

Dow would be my sub. A mid as a sub is the best option. Motlop comes into 22

The Two rucks stay. Can't change now especially with McKay out and Jack not having much game time.

Kennedy is the best option for Martin IMO. He is that midsize, tough, can mark and kick a goal. He has played this role before. Can even help with mid minutes and Cripps can go forward if needed.

I think we will address a number of little issues from the weekend and be much better. Walsh & Cerra will get better and both were very good.


Agree with all of this. I'm not a fan of two rucks but that's only when Harry is in the lineup. With Harry out and hopefully JSOS in I actually think we will be better balanced than last week with Charlie, JSOS, and a resting ruckman as the tall forward targets

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:58 pm 
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I've changed my mind on Motlop+Kennedy and am joining the Motlop + JSOS chorus. I was probably judging their forward play on 2 or 3 years ago, recent form suggests Jack offers more. I'd still have Dow as sub. Kennedy next man up if needed at the Gabba.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:01 pm 
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If we can’t get a win at the tribunal, I think the forced changes will be:

OUT: McKay, Martin
IN: Silvagni, Motlop, Kennedy (sub)

Stay with the two rucks & SOS plays forward. He’d still be likely to see a dozen ruck contests. Harry’s 90-95% game time will be harder to replace, but a quarter and a bit from Kennedy probably pushes Cripps forward to keep the pressure on.

I can’t see the Dees going with McDonald again & Brown would be a fitness risk… surely not Schache… it has to be Grundy, doesn’t it? All of their good smalls are already in the team.

Makes it a hard sell to change the defensive mix. Marchbank has been the one winning the footy in the drop zone at half back. Whether it’s a clean intercept, or the opposition’s fear of McGovern’s & Saad’s kicking creating space, our best ball movement is when we control that area.

It all went to pot against Sydney because we lost Harry’s presence up the line and they pushed their talls into the area. If the same happens against Melbourne, we might want Boyd to get a workable outlet kick away in a hurry, but what’s he doing for the rest of the game? He’s not a great defender.

Hollands might get a look in if SOS isn’t fit & we have to change things up front (though I’m [REDACTED] if I know how). I don’t think I could get behind any suggestion to play Cripps & Kennedy as a fwd-mid rotation for the whole game. It’s just not who they are. Yes they’re dangerous when they get forward, but it’s a different craft to start there.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:20 pm 
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Crusader wrote:

I can’t see the Dees going with McDonald again & Brown would be a fitness risk… surely not Schache… it has to be Grundy, doesn’t it? All of their good smalls are already in the team.


No way they're gonna drop McDonald. They already have to replace Van Rooyen with probably Grundy. To drop McDonald they'd have to find another replacement. Don't think Brown is fit and he's only played 7 games this year. Schache has only played 1 full game (1 more as sub).

Losing Petty, Melksham, and now Van Rooyen is definitely stretching their forward options.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:43 pm 
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If SOS is properly fit I would have slightly different changes to most.

Out: Martin; Harry; Pittonet.

In: JSOS; Motlop; Dow.

Emg: Kennedy


Play Charlie at CHF where it is harder to double team.
JSOS at FF and chop out ruck.
Motlop for pressure and goal scoring.
Dow for added run.
Kennedy can play anywhere forward of centre

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:21 pm 
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I expect to be roundly criticised but is McGovern an option up forward. Wildcard

Having watched Melbourne on Thursday I don't rate thier forward line.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:43 pm 
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I am very confident for this game, i think it should be more comfortable for us than the Swans.

Dees are the lowest corridor usage team in the comp and one of the worst at converting inside 50s to scores.

Our defence will be able to close them up and will eat them up if they want to stick to the wings.

I expect us to rebound with more pace and handball than against the swans and also us able to keep the ball in our F50 for long periods of the game and to win by 4 goals or more.

I have confidence in our coaches that they will alter our gamestyle from the Swans game to suit the Dees

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:44 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
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I can’t see the Dees going with McDonald again & Brown would be a fitness risk… surely not Schache… it has to be Grundy, doesn’t it? All of their good smalls are already in the team.


No way they're gonna drop McDonald. They already have to replace Van Rooyen with probably Grundy. To drop McDonald they'd have to find another replacement. Don't think Brown is fit and he's only played 7 games this year. Schache has only played 1 full game (1 more as sub).

Losing Petty, Melksham, and now Van Rooyen is definitely stretching their forward options.

Fair point. McDonald was so ordinary, I was blind to Van Rooyen being unavailable.

Advantage us.

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