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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:41 am 
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I actually think we’re a better side without McKay but realise that will be an unpopular opinion.

Was criticizing Marchy under my breath a few times but forgot this was his FIRST game of the year so … he did all right.

The umpiring of ruck contests is becoming ridiculous. Umps do an amazing job but the rules need to change for this one - stand your ground and it’s a ‘block’, reach over the top of someone standing their ground and it’s ‘high’? wtf?

Cotrell was fairly quiet and doesn’t seem to garner passionate support in these forums but, boy, do we need his run. Often comes into it in the last when others are fatiguing.

Moore is an awesome player - it was a great contest but … Charlie! What a beast!

Our backs (not Weits) need to improve putting body against opponents as kicks come in. Too often we ‘lost’ them in traffic and they had unimpeded runs at the ball.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:42 am 
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Suggest those criticising Marchbank watch the game again.
Took some crucial marks (7) and knew where to run to. Take him over Young any day.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:45 am 
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Best win in years. The atmosphere in the ground was electric and especially when it became clear late that we were going to win.
Charlie huge with 6 big ones. Had Moore in all sorts by the end of the game.
Weitering absolutely superb and pretty ably assisted by Newman who has been excellent all year.
Cerra’s 2nd quarter was just crazy good. Was BOG before he was subbed. We’ve got to hope his hamstring injury is on the minor side.
Of the less heralded players, I really liked Hewett’s game and Motlop was great too.
All in all, great win by a team playing some elite football at the moment.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:48 am 
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Craig Bradley

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Brilliant performance what a night
87 K there middle of winter balmy night
Barnstorming Blues got the job done
Plenty of Carringbush supporters cutting up rough they are not too used to getting beaten

Superb team performance
Charlie brilliant cerra the same -what is going on with Hammy
Martin excellent -can we see more please
Cripps on one leg doing cripps things
Weitering impassable
Hollands after jittery start looks good -motlop much better chasing and defensively
Backline held up well
Umpiring until last abysmal

Play like that beat anyone
Must keep same intensity up next week

Rick J sorry to hear about your wife good news you got to some of it
I reckon tell her you went she knows you love her but also you love your footy

Sun shining today how brilliant PS
Walked to the G last night brilliant night one of the best nights at the footy for years
Go Blues


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:33 am 
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https://www.afl.com.au/video/988529/ful ... MATCH:4948

Post match interview.

1 word sums up the Club at the moment for mine.....'Honesty'.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:38 am 
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sammywaslow wrote:
I actually think we’re a better side without McKay but realise that will be an unpopular opinion.

Was criticizing Marchy under my breath a few times but forgot this was his FIRST game of the year so … he did all right.

The umpiring of ruck contests is becoming ridiculous. Umps do an amazing job but the rules need to change for this one - stand your ground and it’s a ‘block’, reach over the top of someone standing their ground and it’s ‘high’? wtf?

Cotrell was fairly quiet and doesn’t seem to garner passionate support in these forums but, boy, do we need his run. Often comes into it in the last when others are fatiguing.

Moore is an awesome player - it was a great contest but … Charlie! What a beast!

Our backs (not Weits) need to improve putting body against opponents as kicks come in. Too often we ‘lost’ them in traffic and they had unimpeded runs at the ball.


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I think we miss his work up the ground a bit.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:43 am 
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jack martin is close to irreplaceable



Absolutely!! They had no answer for him and they couldn’t double team curnow , cause of Martin madness !!

Come on baggers ….

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:49 am 
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Still buzzing. Didn't go to bed until 1am... I have a 7yo and 4yo and wife all with colds so that is no mean feat.

sammywaslow wrote:
I actually think we’re a better side without McKay but realise that will be an unpopular opinion.


We were great for 3 and a bit weeks with him and great for nearly 3 weeks without him (actually not great 2nd half v. WCE but that's bc we had no bench). I'd say it shows our new game plan can withstand personnel disruption, as demonstrated by the other outs we've suffered. Injuries only really affecting us when they happen during the game, hence WCE 2nd half and last night first 10 minutes after Cerra exit. So I'd disagree we are better without H, but nor do we depend on him, nor anyone else, which is great.

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The umpiring of ruck contests is becoming ridiculous. Umps do an amazing job but the rules need to change for this one - stand your ground and it’s a ‘block’, reach over the top of someone standing their ground and it’s ‘high’? wtf?


I'll admit I'm not well versed in ruck laws but TDK being penalised for a shit centre bounce landing on his head and Pitto being penalised for trying to win the tap when the filth ruck was clearly blocking him out had me completely bamboozled. I'm guessing the correct action for Pitto in that scenario is jump aimlessly, throw his hands in the air and look beseechingly to the umpire?

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Cotrell was fairly quiet and doesn’t seem to garner passionate support in these forums but, boy, do we need his run. Often comes into it in the last when others are fatiguing.


He stepped up massively 2nd half, not sure whether he was tagging or misreading play 1st half (can't tell these things on TV) but he does seem to be a 2nd half specialist which is just fine because our demanding game style needs elite tanks. Love the kid.

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Our backs (not Weits) need to improve putting body against opponents as kicks come in. Too often we ‘lost’ them in traffic and they had unimpeded runs at the ball.


Yeah there were a few contests that had me groaning and shouting man up, but our defensive record suggests we mess up fewer contests than the vast majority. It just stings when it's us :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:58 am 
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missnaut wrote:
sammywaslow wrote:
I actually think we’re a better side without McKay but realise that will be an unpopular opinion.

Was criticizing Marchy under my breath a few times but forgot this was his FIRST game of the year so … he did all right.

The umpiring of ruck contests is becoming ridiculous. Umps do an amazing job but the rules need to change for this one - stand your ground and it’s a ‘block’, reach over the top of someone standing their ground and it’s ‘high’? wtf?

Cotrell was fairly quiet and doesn’t seem to garner passionate support in these forums but, boy, do we need his run. Often comes into it in the last when others are fatiguing.

Moore is an awesome player - it was a great contest but … Charlie! What a beast!

Our backs (not Weits) need to improve putting body against opponents as kicks come in. Too often we ‘lost’ them in traffic and they had unimpeded runs at the ball.


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I think we miss his work up the ground a bit.


In the words of our coach, “the midfield went pretty well without Walsh, but that doesn’t mean we don’t want Walsh back does it?”

I think Harry will only make our forward line better, he’s very mobile, gets up the ground and applies pressure. I’d rather him playing than not.

It’s just a matter of whomever comes in knows their role and plays their role. Dow came in and played his role and knew what to do, he wasn’t Cerra but he did what he had to, and the system worked.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:59 am 
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Pies tend to score most from their defensive chains, unlike most flag sides who do it from their forward chains. Voss got it right applying alot of frontal pressure to the Collingwood defence shutting out their ability to score from defensive chains. Port did it last week too but went away from it when 21pts ahead at 3/4 time. We stayed true to what put us in front in the first place and put the game out of reach. Sides will learn from us last night.

In Collingwood games this year they have been no.1 for accuracy in front of goal, their opponents, on the day itself, have been 18th time and again. Means they are getting the ball into the 50 easily without alot of pressure but their defence is pressuring their opposition. We reversed it.

Amazing when you're running hard, committed, opening the game up how much better ball use is. Most of the "butchers" at least become silk.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:22 am 
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azzablue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
jack martin is close to irreplaceable



Absolutely!! They had no answer for him and they couldn’t double team curnow , cause of Martin madness !!

Come on baggers ….



martin madness. i like this! haha


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:25 am 
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Full match replay is up on afl.com.au now… gosh the waite was unbearable!

There aren’t enough articles to read about the win. Some journalists, Fox for example, emphasising all the free kicks awarded to Carlton in second half. Pies supporters online saying they “just had a bad game” and still only lost by 17 points. Oh the arrogance… wish I’d been at the game to watch the filthy anger at the eentire world being rigged against Collingwood dominance.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:26 am 
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jim wrote:
Pies tend to score most from their defensive chains, unlike most flag sides who do it from their forward chains. Voss got it right applying alot of frontal pressure to the Collingwood defence shutting out their ability to score from defensive chains. Port did it last week too but went away from it when 21pts ahead at 3/4 time. We stayed true to what put us in front in the first place and put the game out of reach. Sides will learn from us last night.

In Collingwood games this year they have been no.1 for accuracy in front of goal, their opponents, on the day itself, have been 18th time and again. Means they are getting the ball into the 50 easily without alot of pressure but their defence is pressuring their opposition. We reversed it.

Amazing when you're running hard, committed, opening the game up how much better ball use is. Most of the "butchers" at least become silk.


Good observations.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:41 am 
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jim wrote:
Pies tend to score most from their defensive chains, unlike most flag sides who do it from their forward chains. Voss got it right applying alot of frontal pressure to the Collingwood defence shutting out their ability to score from defensive chains. Port did it last week too but went away from it when 21pts ahead at 3/4 time. We stayed true to what put us in front in the first place and put the game out of reach. Sides will learn from us last night.


Yes. The thing that had me jumping off the couch the most, even more than our goals, was when Collingwood went on one of their patented runs through the corridor, chaining hand passes, up to about 70m from goal, and I'd think "ah shit, here we go", then one of ours would smother or deflect the penultimate handpass and the threat would be gone. Sometimes the intercept would come later than we'd like but that just made it more exciting. We really did our homework on n these flower.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:41 am 
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sammywaslow wrote:
I actually think we’re a better side without McKay but realise that will be an unpopular opinion.

Was criticizing Marchy under my breath a few times but forgot this was his FIRST game of the year so … he did all right.

The umpiring of ruck contests is becoming ridiculous. Umps do an amazing job but the rules need to change for this one - stand your ground and it’s a ‘block’, reach over the top of someone standing their ground and it’s ‘high’? wtf?

Cotrell was fairly quiet and doesn’t seem to garner passionate support in these forums but, boy, do we need his run. Often comes into it in the last when others are fatiguing.

Moore is an awesome player - it was a great contest but … Charlie! What a beast!

Our backs (not Weits) need to improve putting body against opponents as kicks come in. Too often we ‘lost’ them in traffic and they had unimpeded runs at the ball.


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I don't think it's Harry out that makes us better. It's less talls and more run. Surely we would be far better off with Harry replacing one of the ruckmen. Having two key forwards is a massive asset we just have to use them correctly. They need to lead into different areas and creates space for each other. And most importantly, we need to resist the temptation of the dump kick on their head. It's a lazy, soft option. Having a smaller lineup has required us to be more creative with the ball and hit up smaller players on a lead. We have to keep this mentality when Harry is back.

Without Harry, there will be games where Charlie gets double teamed and shut out of the game

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:11 pm 
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My observations:

1. Nathan Wilson is fast becoming a whinging whining girly type (with all due respect to all females you get my drift)
2. Noticed no over the top theatrics on the boundary line from McCrae last night
3. Where was the joyous exhuberance love in by pie players and fans after the game?
4. H is always a walk up start. Cannot rely solely on Charlie every week or a TDK
5. Pitto had a hand in the first few pie goals as a result of not effectively contesting when the ball came into our defensive line. Was the Pitto aggression a myth? He will be nowhere near our best 22 im afraid
6. Just as he did when at the lions, McStay always bobs up to kick a couple on us. He’s a pain
7. Darcy and his back crew were thankfully held accountable this time around
8. I await for a more consistent effort from genuine footballers - Cunningham and to a lesser extent TDK


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:23 pm 
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Is there a possibility that Jamie Elliot was in fact the goblin in the Andrew Walker photo?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:23 pm 
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And its probably already been said but cerra is surprisingly effing big. Looks a bit nerdish but is actually a bit of a brute

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Can mark
Can kick
Can handball with a backward spin on target everytime.

All Australian form for the bargain basement price of $600K pa

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:39 pm 
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The amount of deprecation coming from filth fans and the media about this win is really irritating me. The umpires gifted us. Carlton playing for their lives whilst the filth had nothing to play for. They had a drop off after the top of the table clash last week. A virus went through the club

@#$%&! off. These are the flag favourites with a full side bar Bobby Hill playing against a side with half a dozen of their best 22 out. 1 off for the second half and the captain on one leg. This win should be celebrated by all and sundry

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