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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:02 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:20 pm 
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On the Hayes or LOB qn, I listened to a podcast where they reckoned Hayes has played more of an inside role in the 2nds and so his instinct is to be drawn into the contest while LOB is more of a pure outside player. So while Hayes gets more of the pill, he's not getting into the positions to do damage. So those guys felt LOB was better for team shape even though Hayes looks like he's doing more. No idea whether their assessment of the 2nds is accurate but might explain why his performance in the 1sts underwhelmed. I suppose if we think we're short on contested ball winners then he could replace LOB, but we might be robbing Peter to pay Paul, unless someone like Fisher takes on more of the outside/f50 entry role.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:21 pm 
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Lets see how the players react this week. The media has been focused on Carlton and channel 9 news has reporters outside the club filming the players arriving.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:32 pm 
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When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:54 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
On the Hayes or LOB qn, I listened to a podcast where they reckoned Hayes has played more of an inside role in the 2nds and so his instinct is to be drawn into the contest while LOB is more of a pure outside player. So while Hayes gets more of the pill, he's not getting into the positions to do damage. So those guys felt LOB was better for team shape even though Hayes looks like he's doing more. No idea whether their assessment of the 2nds is accurate but might explain why his performance in the 1sts underwhelmed. I suppose if we think we're short on contested ball winners then he could replace LOB, but we might be robbing Peter to pay Paul, unless someone like Fisher takes on more of the outside/f50 entry role.

I reckon that would be a fair assessment.
Personally, I think LOB still has a better leg than both Fisher and Hayes.
And for me, the wing is mainly an outside role.

For comparison the last games played by both LOB and Hayes.

Hayes v Cats:
Disposals - 23 (12 kicks and 11 handballs)
Marks - 5
Tackles - 1
Contested possessions - 9
Meters gained - 368
One percenters - 1
Defensive half pressure acts - 6
Rebound inside 50s - 1
Clangers - 6

LOB v Crows:
Disposals - 18 (13 kicks and 5 handballs)
Marks - 3
Tackles - 2
Contested possessions - 2
Meters gained - 535
One percenters - 1
Defensive half pressure acts - 9
Rebound inside 50s - 2
Clangers - 3


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:28 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
All those saying Stocker in, please talk me through your logic.

He got concussed, played half a game, and didn't look amazing when he did.

Over to you.


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DesEnglish wrote:
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All those saying Stocker in, please talk me through your logic.

He got concussed, played half a game, and didn't look amazing when he did.

Over to you.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:56 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


Beat North there in 2020.
Haven't beaten Brisbane since Rd 9 2013 off the back of a 3 goal haul from Kane Lucas.
https://www.blueseum.org/Round+9%2C+2013


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:10 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


Beat North there in 2020.
Haven't beaten Brisbane since Rd 9 2013 off the back of a 3 goal haul from Kane Lucas.
https://www.blueseum.org/Round+9%2C+2013


Thanks. Forgot about covid hubs in Queensland. So last time we beat lions there was last time we played finals.
Reckon that may have been Voss' last season as senior coach for them too.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:48 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


Beat North there in 2020.
Haven't beaten Brisbane since Rd 9 2013 off the back of a 3 goal haul from Kane Lucas.
https://www.blueseum.org/Round+9%2C+2013
Thanks RSG
I knew it was a history type question.....
Blues at the Gabba was the annual trip away with my boys... Never saw a win...

After 2 covid years one of them decided to use his hard earned to see an interstate game with a mate..... Went to Adelaide last weekend the poor f#$*&@

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:40 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.
Yep, nearly always this time of year too it seemed.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:49 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


Beat North there in 2020.
Haven't beaten Brisbane since Rd 9 2013 off the back of a 3 goal haul from Kane Lucas.
https://www.blueseum.org/Round+9%2C+2013

I was at that game.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:57 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.
Yep, nearly always this time of year too it seemed.


You're right. Was always latter part of the season. They'd set themselves for us.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:03 pm 
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Ya know….

at least we’re playing during the day…not
as juicy…!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:03 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Anyone think Silvagni can play wing? It's an area we struggle, he has a good engine, good skills, can mark and will help push back and help. Allows us to play an extra small up front.

I would like to see Marchbank have a crack at the wing if he can get on the park.
We need a good contested mark on the wing, I can't remember what his intercept marking was like but I think it was pretty good IIRC?

Stocker for Newman
Dow for Kennedy
Marchbank for Setterfield
JSOS for Durdin


Agree. Marchbank played a lot of wing in Under 18s and was very good. Just needs to get on the park


He can get fit enough to play wing, because he is a natural wingman.
He's such a good athlete and footballer he can play better in more positions than Plowman, Gov and JSOS imo.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:07 pm 
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No Hewett and No Kennedy means we are Screwed before the game starts......

Who will get the hard balls for us? who will put his head down? will Dow finally come of age? will someone else stand up in the middle?


Its always nice to dream but the reality is, we are going to get smacked and smashed in the middle.... NO chance :(


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:08 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
On the Hayes or LOB qn, I listened to a podcast where they reckoned Hayes has played more of an inside role in the 2nds and so his instinct is to be drawn into the contest while LOB is more of a pure outside player. So while Hayes gets more of the pill, he's not getting into the positions to do damage. So those guys felt LOB was better for team shape even though Hayes looks like he's doing more. No idea whether their assessment of the 2nds is accurate but might explain why his performance in the 1sts underwhelmed. I suppose if we think we're short on contested ball winners then he could replace LOB, but we might be robbing Peter to pay Paul, unless someone like Fisher takes on more of the outside/f50 entry role.


Be careful not to overrate OBrien.

He's all we've got with that type of endurance running.
Next up is Setterfield, Cottrell, Newnes and Fisher imo

As for Hayes, he's probably better than OBrien at most things footy, other than endurance running. Repeats, not raw speed....imo.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:11 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
On the Hayes or LOB qn, I listened to a podcast where they reckoned Hayes has played more of an inside role in the 2nds and so his instinct is to be drawn into the contest while LOB is more of a pure outside player. So while Hayes gets more of the pill, he's not getting into the positions to do damage. So those guys felt LOB was better for team shape even though Hayes looks like he's doing more. No idea whether their assessment of the 2nds is accurate but might explain why his performance in the 1sts underwhelmed. I suppose if we think we're short on contested ball winners then he could replace LOB, but we might be robbing Peter to pay Paul, unless someone like Fisher takes on more of the outside/f50 entry role.

I reckon that would be a fair assessment.
Personally, I think LOB still has a better leg than both Fisher and Hayes.
And for me, the wing is mainly an outside role.

For comparison the last games played by both LOB and Hayes.

Hayes v Cats:
Disposals - 23 (12 kicks and 11 handballs)
Marks - 5
Tackles - 1
Contested possessions - 9
Meters gained - 368
One percenters - 1
Defensive half pressure acts - 6
Rebound inside 50s - 1
Clangers - 6

LOB v Crows:
Disposals - 18 (13 kicks and 5 handballs)
Marks - 3
Tackles - 2
Contested possessions - 2
Meters gained - 535
One percenters - 1
Defensive half pressure acts - 9
Rebound inside 50s - 2
Clangers - 3


Good stuff Sidey.
Fair enough.
OK, I'll take Hayes., and I'll forfeit 170 metres.

Deal.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:13 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
When was the last time we won at the Gabba? As I recall even those years they were garbage they had their annual birthday against us. Reckon it's been a while.


Beat North there in 2020.
Haven't beaten Brisbane since Rd 9 2013 off the back of a 3 goal haul from Kane Lucas.
https://www.blueseum.org/Round+9%2C+2013



Honey >>> Lucas.

Pick Honey and we win.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:14 pm 
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Blues have 13 confirmed players unavailable this week
Lions have 2

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