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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:36 am 
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With tiggers looking to play 3 talks (riewoldt, lynch and balta), do we need to consider Lewis Young? Or does Gov play on balta?


I say we rely on Guv, Oscar and Weiters. Young would make us too slow if he was added to the others.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:38 am 
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Nankervis will beat Pitto easily but I can't see them going into the Richmond game without him. TDK has to play.

Just thinking outside the box ... any chance TDK could be turned into a CHB?


Gawn beat Pitto yet our mids did ok. I am not worried about Nankervis, he’s not even half the footballer Gawn is.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:52 am 
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Selection of the back 7 looms as the most intriguing selection debate in my view
Based on the pre season matches, Voss has gone with Weitering, Oscar, Gov, Saad, Williams, Newman and Boyd
Young played last week but seemingly only due to Weiters missing
Williamson overlooked last week and only played a half as a sacrificial lamb in the forward line
Plowman also overlooked last week for a spot in the back 7
Stocker still seemingly weeks away
Doc had a good game in the 2s but query whether they rush him back for Rd 1. Ultimately he’ll slot straight back in to the back 7 but it’s a matter of when. Ideally he would have a full hit out vs an AFL team prior to round 1 but he may be good enough to play regardless.
Looks like Boyd is firmly in the selection frame unless the club deems Doc as ready to go


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:59 pm 
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This is going to be HUGE!
Reports are that Richmond is looking strong and it doesn’t surprise me after their disappointing season last year.
Good!
I want them at their peak. I want us to be really tested this year. We need to win against strong opposition, not because ther other team is weakened.

I don’t know if we are ready to beat the Tigers in Round 1 but I’m relishing the opportunity to find out!
It would be awesome to turn the tables on them in Round 1. But my real goal is that we can expect to beat them, and compete with the top 4-6 teams by season’s end.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:08 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
With tiggers looking to play 3 talks (riewoldt, lynch and balta), do we need to consider Lewis Young? Or does Gov play on balta?


I say we rely on Guv, Oscar and Weiters. Young would make us too slow if he was added to the others.


Think I agree with you. Balta 194cm. Thought he was closer to the 200 mark when I suggested it.
Not convinced I'd go in with TDK though. Think I'd prefer another runner.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:13 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
With tiggers looking to play 3 talks (riewoldt, lynch and balta), do we need to consider Lewis Young? Or does Gov play on balta?


I say we rely on Guv, Oscar and Weiters. Young would make us too slow if he was added to the others.


Think I agree with you. Balta 194cm. Thought he was closer to the 200 mark when I suggested it.
Not convinced I'd go in with TDK though. Think I'd prefer another runner.



Did you see TDK's run, chase and tackle on the speedy Langdon in the final quarter, after playing 4 quarters?

Hard to go past him. Quite freakish.

Conundrum. I love what Jack brings to the team, but I'd prefer TDK, Harry & Charlie in the forward line, and TDK as the 2nd ruck.

Jack could mix it with TDK in the FP when TDK rucks and some midfield time.

I don't think Jack's shoulder is right

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:15 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
With tiggers looking to play 3 talks (riewoldt, lynch and balta), do we need to consider Lewis Young? Or does Gov play on balta?


I say we rely on Guv, Oscar and Weiters. Young would make us too slow if he was added to the others.


Think I agree with you. Balta 194cm. Thought he was closer to the 200 mark when I suggested it.
Not convinced I'd go in with TDK though. Think I'd prefer another runner.


I always thought Balta was close to 200 too.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:19 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
Nankervis will beat Pitto easily but I can't see them going into the Richmond game without him. TDK has to play.

Just thinking outside the box ... any chance TDK could be turned into a CHB?


I don't like the idea of TDK learning his back craft in a game worth 4 points. Its not fair to anyone.

I bet this whole issue for most posters about playing TDK is how to fit both him and Jack, such is their sentimentality and faith in Jack.

Jack looked good in the first half vs StKilda but he didn't look right to me against Dess. He had a quiet half before going off injured.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:12 pm 
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david31 wrote:
Selection of the back 7 looms as the most intriguing selection debate in my view
Based on the pre season matches, Voss has gone with Weitering, Oscar, Gov, Saad, Williams, Newman and Boyd
Young played last week but seemingly only due to Weiters missing
Williamson overlooked last week and only played a half as a sacrificial lamb in the forward line
Plowman also overlooked last week for a spot in the back 7
Stocker still seemingly weeks away
Doc had a good game in the 2s but query whether they rush him back for Rd 1. Ultimately he’ll slot straight back in to the back 7 but it’s a matter of when. Ideally he would have a full hit out vs an AFL team prior to round 1 but he may be good enough to play regardless.
Looks like Boyd is firmly in the selection frame unless the club deems Doc as ready to go


I agree. We will require 1 shutdown defender. Boyd appeared their preferred option the past couple of weeks.
It will be interesting to see if he makes the cut for round 1.
That could push Docherty to the wing.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:18 pm 
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Despite still moving the ball well, and creating 4-5 scoring opportunities in the last Qtr, we seem to slowed down a bit vs Dees.
Kennedy's shot at goal in the last looked like his legs were spent, probably a bit heavy.

Basically, Ed didn't feature in rotations in the first half and was out for the 2nd half so another set of legs would've helped and will on the G.
LOB and Setterfield were on their respective wings all game.
Cripps, Hewett, Cerra and Kennedy did the bulk of the midfield work, with both HF's Martin and Fisher playing high up the ground and also going into the midfield mix.
Pity Owies and Durdin aren't conditioned to go through midfield too, but Voss has a plan for them in the forward line.

I would welcome Weitering (for Young), Charlie (for Williamson), Docherty (for Boyd), and Kemp (for Ed)

Kemp or Newman to be the 23rd man. If Newman plays in the 22, as the 7th defender, he could release Williams to have a few runs through the midfield too. Ed doesn't look right to me and I wouldn't risk him despite being a bonafide warrior.

B: Docherty Weitering McGovern
HB: Williams McDonald Saad

C: OBrien Crippa Setterfield
F: Pittonet Hewett Cerra

HF: Fisher Curnow Kennedy
F: Silvagni McKay Durdin

INT: TDK Martin Owies Newman/Kemp

E: Ed Curnow, Plowman, Boyd

Time to unleash TDK. He can nullify Nankervis if he dominates Pitto and be a scary proposition as a forward.
I loved "that" mark he took on the last line in the last quarter vs Dees. He was the only bloke who had the reach to nullify Gawn in that marking duel at FF.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:29 pm 
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The word on BF is that Grimes will miss …

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:51 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
The word on BF is that Grimes will miss …



That's a pity. RichmondFC have announced he's had Ligament Surgery on his thumb from a secong Qtr injury. Doubtful for round 1.

Prestia might not play too. He is a classic head ducker.
Soldo is borderline.

Lambert and Graham out for sure.

That's 5 starting 22 missing. That'll help.

Vlastuin recovering from a Hammy...another possible out for Tiges for Round 1.

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Kane Lambert, Hip

Kane's been managing a chronic long-term hip issue for a while now, the last couple of years. But, it's been manageable and he's been able to play quite a lot of footy. Last year, he missed a few games and was managing some other issues as well. But this pre-season, the hip has become a little bit more of a problem for him. At the moment, he's doing two running sessions a week in the rehab group and a little bit of football training. We just haven't been able to progress to the next level with intensity in our football drills. At the moment, Kane's getting some alternative therapies to help with his hip and is seeking various pieces of advice from professionals around his long-term management of that. At the moment, we're just finishing a course of some therapies with it. Today, he did two drills with the main group and looked quite good. So, we'll just go through that process over the next couple of weeks and we'll keep everyone informed as to how we're going and how it's progressing."

Jack Graham, hamstring

"Jack's going really well. Jack resumed footy skills this week. Jack's had a number of complaints over the pre-season, he's had a hip, a back issue, a glute issue, and then a little hamstring issue on the camp. So, he's missed quite a bit of football skills training, but he's done quite a lot of conditioning. It's that transition from the conditioning to the football training now that we're trying to get a bit more rock-solid, get back-to-back football sessions, and then ultimately some game time. He's not going to play this week against Hawthorn and then we'll be assessing closer to Round 1 what his match play return looks like. But at the moment, he's just working really hard doing the football sessions and we're doing some extra work this weekend, he won't be playing so he'll be doing a pretty big session with a few other guys this Saturday."

Nick Vlastuin, hamstring

"Nick had an incident in the practice match against Geelong last Saturday in the last 30 seconds of the game, where he got a shove in the back and in the same motion within a few steps, kicked the ball quite long and just came to the bench after the game and said he felt a little bit of an issue with his lower hamstring. He started running against last Tuesday, and today he was running and kicking the ball again. It's pretty minor but it's just enough to rule him out of this week (against Hawthorn). I expect he'll be back to full training next week and have a pretty smooth transition into Round 1."

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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
The word on BF is that Grimes will miss …


Good. He had surgery today which could push Balta back into defence. That solves a forward match up problem for us.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:26 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
david31 wrote:
Selection of the back 7 looms as the most intriguing selection debate in my view
Based on the pre season matches, Voss has gone with Weitering, Oscar, Gov, Saad, Williams, Newman and Boyd
Young played last week but seemingly only due to Weiters missing
Williamson overlooked last week and only played a half as a sacrificial lamb in the forward line
Plowman also overlooked last week for a spot in the back 7
Stocker still seemingly weeks away
Doc had a good game in the 2s but query whether they rush him back for Rd 1. Ultimately he’ll slot straight back in to the back 7 but it’s a matter of when. Ideally he would have a full hit out vs an AFL team prior to round 1 but he may be good enough to play regardless.
Looks like Boyd is firmly in the selection frame unless the club deems Doc as ready to go


I agree. We will require 1 shutdown defender. Boyd appeared their preferred option the past couple of weeks.
It will be interesting to see if he makes the cut for round 1.
That could push Docherty to the wing.

I would have Williamson ahead of Boyd at this stage of Boyd’s career. I’m not a huge fan of Williamson but Boyd appeared to struggle with the tempo at times over the past couple of weeks. When the whips are cracking on the big stage, I’m not confident Boyd will be up to it. I’d be more inclined to play Williamson on the understanding that this is his last chance. Boyd should get a crack at it at some stage during the season.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:36 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
LOB and Setterfield were on their respective wings all game.


Ed played wing as well but yes, they spent quite a bit of time there.
I agree with your comments about Ed, he looks banged up at the moment. He'd have to be touch and go for round 1.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:39 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
david31 wrote:
Selection of the back 7 looms as the most intriguing selection debate in my view
Based on the pre season matches, Voss has gone with Weitering, Oscar, Gov, Saad, Williams, Newman and Boyd
Young played last week but seemingly only due to Weiters missing
Williamson overlooked last week and only played a half as a sacrificial lamb in the forward line
Plowman also overlooked last week for a spot in the back 7
Stocker still seemingly weeks away
Doc had a good game in the 2s but query whether they rush him back for Rd 1. Ultimately he’ll slot straight back in to the back 7 but it’s a matter of when. Ideally he would have a full hit out vs an AFL team prior to round 1 but he may be good enough to play regardless.
Looks like Boyd is firmly in the selection frame unless the club deems Doc as ready to go


I agree. We will require 1 shutdown defender. Boyd appeared their preferred option the past couple of weeks.
It will be interesting to see if he makes the cut for round 1.
That could push Docherty to the wing.

I would have Williamson ahead of Boyd at this stage of Boyd’s career. I’m not a huge fan of Williamson but Boyd appeared to struggle with the tempo at times over the past couple of weeks. When the whips are cracking on the big stage, I’m not confident Boyd will be up to it. I’d be more inclined to play Williamson on the understanding that this is his last chance. Boyd should get a crack at it at some stage during the season.


I tend to agree about Boyd but based upon practice game selections, he seemed a preferred option. The bonus is he seems to defend well, he just needs to adjust tom the increased tempo. I did think that he was much better against Melbourne than against the Saints.
Personally, I'd play Doc and Plowman and leave Boyd, Newman and Williamson out.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:46 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
david31 wrote:
Selection of the back 7 looms as the most intriguing selection debate in my view
Based on the pre season matches, Voss has gone with Weitering, Oscar, Gov, Saad, Williams, Newman and Boyd
Young played last week but seemingly only due to Weiters missing
Williamson overlooked last week and only played a half as a sacrificial lamb in the forward line
Plowman also overlooked last week for a spot in the back 7
Stocker still seemingly weeks away
Doc had a good game in the 2s but query whether they rush him back for Rd 1. Ultimately he’ll slot straight back in to the back 7 but it’s a matter of when. Ideally he would have a full hit out vs an AFL team prior to round 1 but he may be good enough to play regardless.
Looks like Boyd is firmly in the selection frame unless the club deems Doc as ready to go


I agree. We will require 1 shutdown defender. Boyd appeared their preferred option the past couple of weeks.
It will be interesting to see if he makes the cut for round 1.
That could push Docherty to the wing.

I would have Williamson ahead of Boyd at this stage of Boyd’s career. I’m not a huge fan of Williamson but Boyd appeared to struggle with the tempo at times over the past couple of weeks. When the whips are cracking on the big stage, I’m not confident Boyd will be up to it. I’d be more inclined to play Williamson on the understanding that this is his last chance. Boyd should get a crack at it at some stage during the season.


I tend to agree about Boyd but based upon practice game selections, he seemed a preferred option. The bonus is he seems to defend well, he just needs to adjust tom the increased tempo. I did think that he was much better against Melbourne than against the Saints.
Personally, I'd play Doc and Plowman and leave Boyd, Newman and Williamson out.


Yeah I’d have Doc, Plowman & Stocker ahead of Boyd, Newman & Williamson. But I reckon Newman will play round 1, and either Boyd or Williamson will get a game unless Doc is ready. I wouldn’t be surprised if Plowman is used as the sub.

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If the slight against Boyd is that he struggled to adjust to the tempo of a practice match then I think I would go with doc then willo because the tempo of round 1 will be full on AND he will be targeted….


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I’d be more inclined to play Williamson on the understanding that this is his last chance. Boyd should get a crack at it at some stage during the season.

Last chance in round one?
Doubt Voss will be saying that to anyone.

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I’d rather have an underdone Stocker than either of Boyd or Williamson.

Docherty would be a pleasant surprise, though he’d want to defend better than he did last season.

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