My mail is he has mental health issues hope they can get him right this kid can play and is the type of player we need

Kk
He looks a million dollars but doesn’t do enough
Doesn’t work hard enough

You take that shot
It was a game killer

I agree he did not get much of the ball, but when he did he showed more speed than SPS would have.

We never fail to disappoint.

So you judge him on that one poor decision, OK

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Martin has been in the system for a while
His work rate was average at the GC
That was the knock on him
Again compare him to Other players who play a similar rolein the top teams
You can argue that he cost us the game against Port because he put in an 80% effort at a crucial stage
He doesn’t give 100% at every contest
Overrated KK

I think a lot of people on this site get overexcited by glimpses of a developing team and then write a lot of tripe when we perform at the level we are at. We were in the game at half time and should have been further in front. Collingwood apparently changed up their high half forward in the second half which changed the momentum of the game. The third quarter was still tight though and I do not think we got smashed then. We clearly were getting tired though as second efforts were dropping off. I thought we could have made some changes to get Gibbons and Fisher around the ball to provide some spark. The last quarter was clearly disappointing. With regards to your comments regarding the players listed all I will say is I do not think any player who plays AFL is soft and like all things continuity provides the best opportunity to improve and develop which a number of players have not had.

But some are sooooooo much softer than others.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Martin is NOT the problem. He’s one of the few players who plays with consistent heart and desire


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That’s crap

You overrate your opinion, put up a poll on Martin and see what the response is.
Will be all Australian within 3 years

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Someone needs to find a way to bridgd the gap between our best and worst. Our best can serve it up to anyone. Our worst is up there with the worst in the competition. We’ve seen our worst for quarters and halves in almost half the games this year (Richmond, Melbourne, St Kilda, Hawthorn, West Coast and Collingwood). I understand we won’t play well every week or every quarter but our worst can’t be a 0/10. It must be a 3-4/10 otherwise we’ll just continue to tease and never actually achieve much. A big step backwards today. Every time we play 1-2 good games, it’s followed by a stinker. Every time the expectation comes, we crumble. We need more talent but we mainly need to kick the loser mentality that has festered for too long. Too often we fall back into old loser habits.

We shouldve brought in Kennedy or Cunningham for Pitto. Cas does his best work when he combines fwd with second ruck duties
He had a mare today and the obvious move was to give Cas more ruck time and allow TDK more time in fwd line
Noticed that at the start of the last, Cas was playing more as a follower. By that stage, the damage had been done
Cas is fwd/follower...not a fwd only

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100% we all quietly suspected it could happen today.... every time we have a chance to stand the @#$%&! up we buckle without fail

We’re an 8th to 12th team and when we play like one people lose their shit.

Funny stuff.

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I'm not sure 4 points in a half is an 8th to 12th team type performance.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

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Just watched the press conference.

Can anyone remember a coach refer more to playing our way.

We need to be able to play, and score when we can’t or are not allowed to play our way.

Really
He need to improve a bit

I'll admit I was quietly confident going into this game, massive kick in the pants.

I haven't given up on Dow but as sidefx said earlier, in hindsight maybe bringing in both he & Polson in the same week cost us. Cottrell wouldn't have been too bad for us today. Polson looked OK when he got it but that wasn't often.

That second half was just a giant WTF just happened moment, to me. I wouldn't say we had one of our complete lapses but we just looked so one dimensional going in forward. What happened? I can't follow the coaching moves but interested to hear from others like BV what did we do & not do after half time? & did Buckley re-jig their defence or something.

Really, really wanted more from Casboult today.

I thought we missed Mcgovern, needed someone to create & use the ball cleverly & make us a bit more unpredictable in attack.

Got pantsed.

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