Genuinely surprised how comfortable some appear to be after the past 2 games.

By 'Carlton 2016' standards, they have been deplorable.

There is absolutely no excuse for that first half yesterday against priority pick territory Brisbane. Especially when the coach himself said the players were looking forward to the chance to atone.

IMHO if we accept that these performances are part of the journey, then this rebuild will be a helluva lot longer than 66 games.

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We are on our way back...

20 years of failure is ingrained into our culture now

it is very hard to be a carlton supporter nowadays if you value everything Carlton pre 1995 - warts and all...

Yes we thought we would be the worst team in the comp.

Look at our team, it's amazing we have won 6 games


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So you thought we would be doing what exactly this year? 10 wins? Finals?


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Yep. Unfortunately for 2 centuries now, posters still believe they can turn a winning culture on and off as they feel.

Since Waterloo, eh?

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#DonTheStash

Well, I missed the first half so I didn't think we played all that badly

Anyway. We knew we didn't have a forward line at the star of the season. No major surprises where we are at. That said, thought we looked a lot better earlier in the year when we were kicking short into 50 rather than the log bombs.

Still think the season's been pretty good.

Highlight of the game was unintentionally yelling Jesus Jones at the TV in the 3rd....took me back to the early 90s

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Agree.

Clarkson won 5 games in his first year, including a 20 goal loss that I went to at Footy Park against Port. They were horrible, and fielded a side that had the nucleas of what would become the cornerstone of their golden era, and the rest a heap of guys who would be delisted or at best depth in future sides.

Melbourne have gone from 2 to 4 to 7 to 10 wins the last 4 seasons. The 4 wins was in Roos first year. Remember when they couldn't score and everyone was lamenting how defensive and boring they were? From memory they only won 1 of their last 14 or so dishing up crap that would have rivalled yesterday and then some.......and even after 3-4 years of doing it properly they still haven't made finals.

No quick fix, means it can't all be fixed quickly.

Still can't get my head around the fact that the same people that rightly point out how bad are coaching, trading, drafting, development, list management, player welfare, leadership development, game plan/structure etc has been prior to this has are now shocked that results like yesterday can still happen.

Of course it was poor, of course he club realises it, but it was not reflective of the majority of what we've seen this year nor any different to what any club dishes up in a rebuild.

Now reading through the match day threads it's the game plan that is the problem, or selection, or the coaches media cliches! So many that are involved in the inner sanctum 24/7 and have a full grasp on what is going on behind the scenes. I'm jealous.

Those that can't handle it, better get used to it or find another hobby as there will be 2 more culls of this list, and it will not be until 2018 until it will be a Silvagni/Bolton list and they can then start to be fully accountable.

Of course none of that will happen and they'll keep posting the same thing over and over and over until what they complain about has "been fixed", only changing tact to then take credit for any improvement by claiming that they should had done what the poster had suggested earlier.

Anyone thinking otherwise is only going to get a repeat of the false dawn short-cut of the last "rebuild". ie going from a basket case in 2007 to thinking we we were a legitimate flag chance in 2010, when the likes of Russell, Hadley, Jospeh, Warnock, Ellard, Davies, Bower, Robinson and Armfield etc were still best 22.

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tack

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Thanks for opening the window to let some fresh air in BB74.

It was getting very stale in here .

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I hope Essendon* folds.

our wins and losses are irrelevant only to the extent that the causes of our club problems still exist and have not been changed.

you need the following for a premiership:

1. a good board
2. a good president
3, a good CEO
4. a good footy ops
5. a good coach
6. a good captain
7. a good recruiter
8. a good list manager
9. a good reserves

imo we fail on 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 & 9

Hang on.

You said MLG was the saviour of the club 18 months ago, which means you supported the board as he was from it.
You said people who didn't get behind MLG , Trigg and their team were not true Carlton supporters. Guess what? that list is the team.

You've said today that you've always said the board had to go, which is an outright lie. You supported their direction wholeheartedly 18 months ago.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Thanks for trolling me over the last 18 months cimm- to suggest that I have made an "outright lie" (of which I reject) by comparing statements I have alleged to have made 18 months ago means that you are trolling me or you have a little black book next to your computer that you produce when required.
Yes, I recall saying MLG was a good step in the right direction for president, because Sticks was useless.
Having the right president never extended to the board as a whole
I supported the president but I didnt support the entire board with their factions
I also dont recall saying MLG was a "saviour"
That said, I think MLG has reached his end date, because the Board appears to be drifting into wrong directions...

Your statement this morning that you have always said the board has to go is an outright lie.

You supported their decision to appoint MLG and Trigg and said we were on the right track.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

go back to carltonsc mr troll

Ladies and gentlemen ...

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

You can't see past your own nose
The culture of the club has changed since Bolton arrived
Malthouse's appointment was the dumbest most shortsighted decision made by a club who made a multitude of dumb decisions the previous odd 15 years.
We have lost 9 games on the Trott because our list is crap but guy like Thomss and Jones on collectively over a mill a year will eventually be gone.

Get with the program

Are you allowed back there or are u still banned for peddling bullshit?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

So Bolton has changed the culture and outlook of the Carlton board all by himself? Looks like the same old pathetic board to me...

Bolton's not the messiah


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