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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:12 pm 
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Polishing a turd can't be easy.

This will take years and years to correct.. Probably with our set up.. It will never be corrected
Pull up a chair and welcome to hell


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:22 pm 
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Interesting photo ...... I'm sure this guy is one who's going through the motions. Got a spray, did a couple of good things in the second quarter then "that's all folks"

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:24 pm 
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Be interesting to see who makes a comeback to football first .......... Carlton FC or Adam Goodes

(both were a no show last night ....... one has been a no show a bit longer)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:11 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:24 pm 
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FWIW, here's the article on Waite the Ch7 clowns kept going on about last night…

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2015-07-30/ ... -shoulders

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:37 pm 
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We should merge with Nth Melbourne and we can call the club Northern Blues or something. If we don't then it is likely the club will keep the Kangaroo mascot


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:42 pm 
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That's the crux of what I witnessed last night, and I'd dare say for a few seasons now. Too many players going through the motions, earning their paychecks.

Take a look at Richmond. Don't tell me Richmond is chocoblock full of stars. Yet they're managing to knock off the best talent laden teams going around. As Clarko himself said at the presser "We were beaten by a more hungry outfit who wanted it more tonight"

People complain about our lack of skills, which do count, but a thousand sins can be covered by sheer determination, which Richmond showed again can indeed bridge the gap.

There is no use saying this player or that player without knowing who's injured, who's having issues with form and what not. But surely the club knows, and if their fairdinkum they'll swing the axe at seasons end and cull this deadwood.


On a positive note from the game I thought Levi is doing better. His kicking for goal is improving and I like him up forward. I think he's someone we should stick with who will pay dividends in the coming seasons.

Absolutely loving Kreuzer. He's going to get better and better if he can stay injury free. Loved his determination and willingness to hunt the ball regardless. Heart of a lion.

Boekhorst was a nice surprise bobbing up here and there. Needs more time, looks underdone. A couple pre-seasons in the weight room wont hurt him none. Confidence player? ...

Murphy. The guy should be given a medal for the **** he puts up with each week. I know people bag him out, but I have nothing but admiration and respect for Mark Murphy.

Cripps is Cripps. For now at least. He will really show his mental worth if he can maintain himself without catching the cancerous disease thats rife through Carlton at the minute. Keep putting in son, don't worry about those just going through the motions.


Its not fun being a Carlton supporter these days. No fun at all. But when the interim coach tells it like it is at the presser, here's to hoping those at the club will do the right thing and chop chop chop at seasons end.



Murphy's captaincy is one positive out of the last few months. He has been admirable and stepped up.

I for one have changed my mind about him


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:50 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
FWIW, here's the article on Waite the Ch7 clowns kept going on about last night…

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2015-07-30/ ... -shoulders


A two year deal is not a lot to ask and is a relatively small risk. Given we got nothing for him as a free agent. We made a very big mistake.

He would have allowed Henderson to go back, where he plays his best football and if Henderson played some good footy, then that would help him to stay.

Not offering Waite and extra year has probably cost us Henderson too


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:01 pm 
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Probably what people are missing in all this is waite is a by product of a terrible culture... A culture that was passed through to the kids.
Padre.. What's predictable? Lol.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:03 pm 
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At the end of last year a concerted effort was made to clean to the culture..
Obviously it's too ingrained as this was also going to have changed with fev being traded out.

Our problems are much more deeply rooted in every level and layer of the club.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:35 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
camelboy wrote:
FWIW, here's the article on Waite the Ch7 clowns kept going on about last night…

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2015-07-30/ ... -shoulders


A two year deal is not a lot to ask and is a relatively small risk. Given we got nothing for him as a free agent. We made a very big mistake.

He would have allowed Henderson to go back, where he plays his best football and if Henderson played some good footy, then that would help him to stay.

Not offering Waite and extra year has probably cost us Henderson too


It's not always about money. Waite was booed because he was handsomely rewarded for sub-par output over the last 3 years.

Instead of reflecting on the fact that his first priority was to be a one club player and meet whatever KPI's needed to be met to activate the second year of the contract, he took the money and ran

I understand that. I also look at players who have earned less than him across all clubs, and produce consistently better than him.

We took a stand with Waite and he left. Move on

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:17 am 
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We should merge with Nth Melbourne and we can call the club Northern Blues or something. If we don't then it is likely the club will keep the Kangaroo mascot

We should merge with North, just so we can Sakc Waite again.

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Has the MVP voting for this season been wound up after last week??


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:06 am 
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Has the MVP voting for this season been wound up after last week??


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:51 am 
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99prelim wrote:
chelodina wrote:
camelboy wrote:
FWIW, here's the article on Waite the Ch7 clowns kept going on about last night…

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2015-07-30/ ... -shoulders


A two year deal is not a lot to ask and is a relatively small risk. Given we got nothing for him as a free agent. We made a very big mistake.

He would have allowed Henderson to go back, where he plays his best football and if Henderson played some good footy, then that would help him to stay.

Not offering Waite and extra year has probably cost us Henderson too


It's not always about money. Waite was booed because he was handsomely rewarded for sub-par output over the last 3 years.

Instead of reflecting on the fact that his first priority was to be a one club player and meet whatever KPI's needed to be met to activate the second year of the contract, he took the money and ran

I understand that. I also look at players who have earned less than him across all clubs, and produce consistently better than him.

We took a stand with Waite and he left. Move on



Read the quotes in the article

If he was offered 2 years, he stays... En of story.

The ripple effect of him leaving will see Henderson go too. Just like Betts leaving- it had bigger implications


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:23 am 
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No ripple effect. He may have been injured.
You do not create a list on the back of one man like waite..
He's been at the club twelve years and it's not like he was a leading beacon

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:53 am 
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naive.

We have seen ripple effects of losing Betts.

Waite is no leader, but to balance 1 v 2 year contract for someone who plays a Key Position role in the side and to lose him for nothing was a poor decision.


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No ripple effect. He may have been injured.
You do not create a list on the back of one man like waite..
He's been at the club twelve years and it's not like he was a leading beacon


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:17 am 
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We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:20 am 
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We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.


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