Independent Nominations Committee - passed at AGM

CK95 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:34 pm

This is starting to have a bit of John Hewson/GST about it :lol:

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

Cretylus wrote:

....just remember ladies and gentlemen, if this resolution is passed on the 18th December, EVERY single non INC endorsed candidate in future elections will effectively result in a challenge to the sitting board and its president.

In addition, the club opens itself up to potential litigation and claims of discrimination.

The club does not need these constitutional changes and it certainly doesnt benefit the rank and file membership

.....even the committee's name has been spun with the word "Independent" and we have heard words such as "transparency and accountability" associated with this farce

So what you're effectively voting for, or not :lol:

,is the status quo.

The status quo that you quite rightfully whinge and complain about incessantly to the point of projectile vomiting

Like independents with real skill sets have any chance of getting on the board now if they have no allegiance to a Pratt or Matheson. Funny shit

Do you understand that unless the Pratts and Mathesons of this world stop procreating the same endless mindless shit will continue.

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

Vote NO for status quo

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

As mindless as Kevin07

Synbad · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:25 am

teague youre posting like me

Synbad · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:31 am

now...

Cretylus · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:11 am

Clayman wrote:

Quote:

Dear Clayman,

There continues to be some misunderstanding and misinformation circulating about the proposed changes to the constitution. I wanted to take this opportunity to update members so that you are fully informed.
- Any member can still be nominated for the Board. The nominations process has simply been fine-tuned to provide greater accountability and transparency.
- The Independent Nominations Committee has been established to assess candidates and provide information to members about how the skills, knowledge and experience of each candidate may contribute to the Board.
- The proposed model is based on corporate best practice and governance. It has been adopted by a number of other clubs, including Hawthorn, Richmond, Essendon** and GWS, and the AFL itself

- The Independent Nominations Committee can only make recommendations – it cannot stop a nomination that complies with the nominations process.
- Members still have the power to appoint and remove directors. This is a fundamental right of the members and is not being changed in any way.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud and successful club and its members deserve a strong and effective Board.
Hopefully this further helps clarify any queries you may have had about the proposed changes.

Given the importance of the proposed constitutional changes to promoting transparency and good governance at the Club, I recommend the changes to you and encourage all members to vote.

Online voting closes at 6pm on Tuesday 16 December.
Kind regards,
Mark LoGiudice
President, Carlton FC

Are there any negative aspects to these constitutional changes?

Have they been sent out to ALL members so that they can make an informed decision?

Our president can send an email to every single member pushing for an indpendent nominations committee in which he will be sitting on. :lol:

If there is nothing to worry about MLG, send me the carlton email list I will send each member a short email.

Everybody believes in transparency and honesty in our club don't they?

Why should members need to go through the media to create a voice for themselves?

I issue a challenge to Mark and the board to explain how the Essendon* football club board elections work and how this resolution will make the carlton system work in the same manner?

Mark has already flagged the EFC* as having this system.

If one compares the EFC* system with these changes one will understand whats going on. I read through the relevant sections in the EFC* constiitution. It's on their club website, as is our constitution.

Send an email to the blues president, attend the AGM, Ring up,the club. Once these changes are passed, it will be next to impossible to reverse them in the future because no board will put up a resolution that dilutes their power and exposes their operations.

Ask some @#$%&! questions of the club and get involved.

Vote whichever way you wish, but at least vote, and participate.

We don't want a situation like Essendon*'s recent elections where a few thousand members out of 60,000 bothered to vote on 2 board positions and voted in 2 Hird puppets.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:49 pm

Cretylus wrote:

Clayman wrote:

Quote:

Dear Clayman,

There continues to be some misunderstanding and misinformation circulating about the proposed changes to the constitution. I wanted to take this opportunity to update members so that you are fully informed.
- Any member can still be nominated for the Board. The nominations process has simply been fine-tuned to provide greater accountability and transparency.
- The Independent Nominations Committee has been established to assess candidates and provide information to members about how the skills, knowledge and experience of each candidate may contribute to the Board.
- The proposed model is based on corporate best practice and governance. It has been adopted by a number of other clubs, including Hawthorn, Richmond, Essendon*** and GWS, and the AFL itself

- The Independent Nominations Committee can only make recommendations – it cannot stop a nomination that complies with the nominations process.
- Members still have the power to appoint and remove directors. This is a fundamental right of the members and is not being changed in any way.

The Carlton Football Club is a proud and successful club and its members deserve a strong and effective Board.
Hopefully this further helps clarify any queries you may have had about the proposed changes.

Given the importance of the proposed constitutional changes to promoting transparency and good governance at the Club, I recommend the changes to you and encourage all members to vote.

Online voting closes at 6pm on Tuesday 16 December.
Kind regards,
Mark LoGiudice
President, Carlton FC

Are there any negative aspects to these constitutional changes?

Have they been sent out to ALL members so that they can make an informed decision?

Our president can send an email to every single member pushing for an indpendent nominations committee in which he will be sitting on. :lol:

If there is nothing to worry about MLG, send me the carlton email list I will send each member a short email.

Everybody believes in transparency and honesty in our club don't they?

Why should members need to go through the media to create a voice for themselves?

I issue a challenge to Mark and the board to explain how the Essendon** football club board elections work and how this resolution will make the carlton system work in the same manner?

Mark has already flagged the EFC** as having this system.

If one compares the EFC** system with these changes one will understand whats going on. I read through the relevant sections in the EFC** constiitution. It's on their club website, as is our constitution.

Send an email to the blues president, attend the AGM, Ring up,the club. Once these changes are passed, it will be next to impossible to reverse them in the future because no board will put up a resolution that dilutes their power and exposes their operations.

Ask some @#$%&! questions of the club and get involved.

Vote whichever way you wish, but at least vote, and participate.

We don't want a situation like Essendon**'s recent elections where a few thousand members out of 60,000 bothered to vote on 2 board positions and voted in 2 Hird puppets.

were all mates here....

Cretylus · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:47 pm

It's all theater Mr Σ

.....theater and masks

Synbad · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:44 pm

they wanna pass something in the consittution which is for the betterment of this footy club

after all they know what this club needs.. on the back of a 1.6 million dollar loss..
i think that means... this board would have lost close to 4 million without them.

heard a figure of 2 mill profit bandied around from the pokies...

but with all that.... and a board nobody has been able to get onto.. unless invited on for years.............
,,,, the board believes we need this in the constitution to go forward....
its priority ......

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

funnier.... some people on here say its good... but they dont even know what the perimeters of the committee are...

mozzie im looking at u....

and of course little robbie...the windup toy

Cretylus · **Posted:** Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:18 pm

We need these constitutional changes because the club hasn't ebeen transperent and accountable in the past. It hasn't connected with the rank and file membership base.

The YCP think tank, the Carlton Members council, and the Indepenedent Nominations committee will fix all that.

These perfect corporate structures are so transperent and democratc that just about any member can be CHOSEN to serve the club via these funnels of egalitarian function and pure freedom.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, the carlton Members council of pre-selected an nicely filtered members represent ALL members and the YCP will provde the supreme intellectual think tank that will propel the club into the 21st century and beyond. The INC will ensure that the board is vibrant and continually refreshed with new talent that will keep the club on the cutting edge for centuries to come.

And our great leader who has suddenly realized that there are members out there and so had to write a belated email a few days ago, has used the EFC* as a prime example to emulate on the corporate governance and club integrity front.

Yes I am convinced ladies and gentlemen.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:42 am

Yeah the club's a joke.
These whackers are running what's left of it into the ground!
They have cheerleaders like mosquito who thinks nothing about this is weird but we're should play games back at princes park and turn it into a fortress.

Hard to get your head around that kind of logic... But he has allies like little Robbie the wind up doll... Who agrees ..... He's using all of Solomons wisdom.. They both are... Lol

Clayman · **Joined:** Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:02 am **Posts:** 1770

Must admit - he lost me when he mentioned the words Essendon* and corporate best practice and governance all in the same argument for a reason we need this change. They must be envious of Little's dictatorship style.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:07 pm

At Essendon* they would want people coming in that wont be rocking the boat.
They have done a wonderful job containing this thing... they wouldnt want a panic merchant coming in right now and tipping over all that great work this boards done containing.

Bit different to our board though... theyre filtering who comes in .. Gleeson Fried Pratt etc are rolling into another term unopposed.. meanwhile the board has crystalised a 1.6 million dollar debt and is floundering in most areas.
Just shoring up the culture of mediocrity that reeks at this club

This club should be opened up not closed down...

Clayman · **Joined:** Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:02 am **Posts:** 1770

Synbad wrote:

At Essendon** they would want people coming in that wont be rocking the boat.
They have done a wonderful job containing this thing.

With some great help from the Murdoch press and mates in the football industry. Without media support I would think the board would have crumbled by now. Sponsors have not been tarnished.....that much.

Even people on here now feel sorry for Hird et al. The media machine has brain washed nearly everyone.

Synbad · **Posted:** Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:02 pm

hahaha i dont know anyone that doesnt think this is gone on long enough.. and that the players cant be blamed ...because its footy culture....

brilliantly run campaign...
but its not just the media.. its the govt also.. as well as the afl and every club ...

they were all either driving the getaway car.. or "saw nothing know nothing..."

brilliant.....

but getting back to our board .. they couldnt organise a root in a pattaya

GWS · **Posted:** Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:22 pm

Clayman wrote:

Even people on here now feel sorry for Hird et al.

Think I must have missed those posts.

Would love to know who/where/why that was said.

Fenwick Snap · **Joined:** Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:00 pm **Posts:** 715

There have been sympathetic comments here and there for 'et al' (nearly all of them I'd disagree with) but I think, to this site's credit, that I haven't read one expression of sorrow for poor Jimmy. If I'm wrong, I'd rather not know. :cry:

camel · **Posted:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:38 pm

Don't forget online voting closes at 6pm today.

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 14900

I voted no. No reason, just didnt really understand the change.

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